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    I've been wavering back and forth on which welder to get for my home shop, mostly automotive type use. Actually bought a Lincoln 135T on sale at Sears, quickly realized it fell far short of what I wanted and returned it. Next thought MM175 might be the ticket but still fell short of what I wanted. Became real interested in an invertor tig, a Dynasty 200DX but no matter how I crunch the numbers, still fall far short of being able to afford it. Finaly after a whole lot of reading and thought, I'm going to go with an MM210 for a couple different reasons:
    -Will work for the full range of material thickness I expect to use.
    -Has a fantastic reputation from everything I've heard or read
    -Virtually every body shop I've been in has either a MM210 or one of it's predacessors as their main machine.
    -Have the option of doing aluminum it needed
    -My existing home wiring will handle the power requirements.
    -Local dealer is making me a killer deal on the machine plus an 80 cf bottle (filled), 30# spool of wire, ready to weld, tax, title and out the door, $1338.00.
    I also plan on getting a 50' extension cord (8/3) and a Miller Big Window Elite to round out the package, probably from Cyberweld.
    This set up will have enough reach to get out in the drive to work on stuff that won't fit in my single car garage.
    One question I have, what wire size would be best for all round use,(not worried about thin sheet metal, will get .023 drive rolls and wire if and when I need to do that) and what gas mix? Dealer suggested .035 wire and an 80/20 "mizon" mix.
    Thanks for all the help and advice here, I've learned a tremendous amount just reading old and new posts. All that I learned pushed me to spend about two to three times what I originaly figured, but I feel sure that getting a 210 and the "Bug Window" will give me Cadillac equipment that will last and do what ever I'll ever need it to do.

  • #2
    I have never used the 80/20 mix so I can't comment. I think I would go with .035 wire for my primary size. Dan who frequents the Hobart site seems to like .030 also.


    • #3
      I love my mm210, I run both .030 and mostly .035. Gas I run 75/25 and have nothing but posative responses for this machine. You will be very happy with these decisions and they will be a great investment. If I can help in anyway contact me through the forum.

      Good choices, good luck,


      • #4
        Exellent choice! I have had my MM 210 for 2 1/2 years and I am still impressed with it. I have used the 250's red and blue and others and the 210 is a close 2nd to them. It has welded everything I needed and I haven't used tap 7 yet. It took me 3 months to earn back the money I spent on it and I have been making money ever since. ( made $120. in the last 2 days, $40. hr X 3)
        I run .035 with 75-25 or Stargas. Now save up for the Spool Gun and you will have many options. One of which is using .023 for those quick thin jobs.


        • #5
          I run 75/25 with 035 wire in a MM185 (mm210 predecessor) and love it. What is TAP 7 BTW?


          • #6
            Actually making money with new toys, er I mean tools, that sure would be nice. Usually the folks that benefit most from my tool expenditures are friends and family. Matter of fact, thats one area where the size/weight of the 210 works in my favor, **** hard for other folks to borrow.
            Seriously, I have no plans of starting a weld shop, but do have prospects of picking up some side money now and again doing stuff in relation to my work. Main reason I want it are a number of personal projects I have in mind, also I hate when I don't have a tool to do things I want to. If I can ever start making enough to pay for my tool habit I'll be in high cotton.


            • #7
              Originally posted by walker
              I run 75/25 with 035 wire in a MM185 (mm210 predecessor) and love it. What is TAP 7 BTW?

              The MM 210 has 7 voltage taps instead of the six taps like your MM 185 does. Tap #7 on the MM210 outputs a higher voltage range then tap #6 on your MM 185. I use tap #7 on my MM 210 to spray arc 1/4" mild steel with 98% argon/2% oxygen as my shielding gas.


              • #8
                For personal use around the home,in short arc mode, i generally prefer to run an .030 E70S-6 in my MM 210. I see two advantages to this, the first being that with this wire size, I can weld 22 ga.- 1/4" mild steel with excellent results. Secondly, the lower deposition rate of the .030 over an .035 allows me a little more time to read the weld puddle.


                • #9

                  Nice logical choice of units!

                  The 210 is (I think) the best value for the money.

                  Each wire size has a sweet spot that they work great in. Ask yourself what thickness you intend to do most. If it's 22ga up to about 1/8 or 3/16 then .030 is a great size. If you intend on doing alot of 3/16 or above, then I'd go with the .035.
                  I can tell you also that most of our mig machines are weld evaluated using 75/25 gas, so that would be my suggestion.

                  Have fun!



                  • #10
                    Thanks once again everyone, what a handy resource for good and accurate advice. Think I'll go with the .030, sounds like just the ticket for planned projects.