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  • tommy2069
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    just let them burn. down here burn holes are the badge of a real welder. when a guy shows up on the job with a shirt that is so starched up it's stiff like a board we all say oh man here comes a stuck up pipe welder.most guys who do show up with stiff shirts are in their early 20"s and 90 % of them end up dragging up the in the first few days. now the older we get the more we like a softer feeling shirt and jeans.. when I get new shirts and jeans I make the wife wash them atleast 3 times before I wear them. and please don't take the stuckup pipe welder coment to heart I meant do disrespect by it. when I'm in a spot where I'm taking on heavy fire I throw on my welding jacket sleaves.

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  • H80N
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    Originally posted by H2o View Post
    Sooooo, I was not aware of this starch thing. Can you just use a spray starch? Seems like soaking them in either boric or startch would be a bit of a PITA.
    Starch...??

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  • H2o
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    Sooooo, I was not aware of this starch thing. Can you just use a spray starch? Seems like soaking them in either boric or startch would be a bit of a PITA.

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  • Portable Welder
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    I like the ****ies carpenter jeans, much heavier than carhart and the side pocket to hold soapstone holder, markers and pens.

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  • Doughboyracer
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    Originally posted by eecervantes83 View Post
    The quality of the jeans has gone to ****. I bought 4 pairs 4 months ago. And their all ripped up with holes in the crotch area and the stitching coming apart. What's a good other brand to buy . Im a field welder so in in all types of positions and like the b01 style carhartt was putting out. For the cost im expecting better quality
    Sorry to be so late to the party...
    Just stopped by to say there are 2 grades to those jeans you mentioned.
    You must have grabbed the light weight version seen in the sporting goods stores and sometimes in the farm stores...I have found both and not always separated. The light ones do tear and rip easy. I have yet to have a problem with the "good" pairs.

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  • H80N
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    If there is any concern about the BORAX...

    this should allay your fears...

    Toxicity

    Borax, sodium tetraborate decahydrate, according to one study, is not acutely toxic.[30] Its LD50 (median lethal dose) score is tested at 2.66 g/kg in rats,[31] meaning that a significant dose of the chemical is needed to cause severe symptoms or death. The lethal dose is not necessarily the same for humans. On pesticide information websites it is listed as a non-lethal compound and of no hazardous concerns.[32]
    First registered in 1946 by the EPA as an insecticide with various restrictions, all restrictions were removed in February 1986 due to the low toxicity of Borax, as published in two EPA documents relating to boric acid and borax.[33][34]
    EPA has determined that, because they are of low toxicity and occur naturally, boric acid and its sodium salts should be exempted from the requirement of a tolerance (maximum residue limit) for all raw agricultural commodities.[33] Although it cited inconclusive data, a re-evaluation in 2006 by the EPA still found that "There were no signs of toxicity observed during the study and no evidence of cytotoxicity to the target organ."[35] In the reevaluation, a study of toxicity due to overexposure was checked and the findings were that "The residential handler inhalation risks due to boric acid and its sodium salts as active ingredients are not a risk concern and do not exceed the level of concern..." but that there could be some risk of irritation to children inhaling it if used as a powder for cleaning rugs.
    Sodium tetraborate decahydrate has no known hazard issues.[36]
    Conditions defined as "over-exposure" to borax dust can cause respiratory irritation, while no skin irritation is known to exist due to borax. Ingestion may cause gastrointestinal distress including nausea, persistent vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea. Effects on the vascular system and brain include headaches and lethargy, but are less frequent. "In severe poisonings, a beefy red skin rash affecting palms, soles, buttocks and scrotum has been described. With severe poisoning, erythematous and exfoliative rash, unconsciousness, respiratory depression, and renal failure."[37]
    Borax was added to the Substance of Very High Concern (SVHC) candidate list on 16 December 2010. The SVHC candidate list is part of the EU Regulations on the Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals 2006 (REACH), and the addition was based on the revised classification of borax as toxic for reproduction category 1B under the CLP Regulations. Substances and mixtures imported into the EU which contain borax are now required to be labelled with the warnings "May damage fertility" and "May damage the unborn child".[38] It was proposed for addition to REACH Annex XIV by the ECHA on 1 July 2015.[39] If this recommendation is approved, all imports and uses of borax in the EU will have to be authorized by the ECHA.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax

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  • H80N
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    Originally posted by tommy2069 View Post
    from what I looked up on boric acid its poisonous and can be absorbed into the skin. .so if you put this mixture on your cloths and it dries your probably not at risk but if you sweat or the clothes become wet then the boric acid will get onto and into the skin.
    BTW... you might note that I treat my aprons...and NOT my jeans or underwear...
    Common sense should rule.....Just don't eat it...

    Boric acid can be used as an antiseptic for minor burns or cuts and is sometimes used in dressings or salves. Boric acid is applied in a very dilute solution as an eye wash. Dilute boric acid can be used as a vaginal douche to treat bacterial vaginosis due to excessive alkalinity,[21] as well as candidiasis due to non-albicans candida.[22] As an antibacterial compound, boric acid can also be used as an acne treatment. It is also used as prevention of athlete's foot, by inserting powder in the socks or stockings, and in alcohol solution can be used to treat some kinds of otitis externa (ear infection) in both humans and animals. The preservative in urine sample bottles in the UK is boric acid.

    Boric acid solutions used as an eye wash or on abraded skin are known to be toxic, particularly to infants, especially after repeated use; this is because of its slow elimination rate.[23]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boric_acid


    Last edited by H80N; 09-12-2015, 02:19 PM.

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  • tommy2069
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    from what I looked up on boric acid its poisonous and can be absorbed into the skin. .so if you put this mixture on your cloths and it dries your probably not at risk but if you sweat or the clothes become wet then the boric acid will get onto and into the skin.

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  • H80N
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    Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
    I want a denim apron.
    Just regular machinist style 100% COTTON denim with top pencil pocket..

    wally world has a pretty good selection...

    http://www.walmart.com/search/?query=denim%20apron

    HF has decent quality ones cheap

    http://www.harborfreight.com/denim-apron-32306.html

    I treat them with Borax for flame retard.. because I wear them while I TIG

    "For a make-it yourself fire retardant mixture, mix 7 oz. Borax, 3 oz. boric acid, and 2 qts. warm water. Stir to dissolve completely. Either dip the fabric in the mixture or spray on to thoroughly saturate the material until it drips. This product will wash right out without damage to the fabrics so if you have to use a bedsheet for stage curtains, it won't damage them for at home use. "

    Remember: no Synthetics...or poly blends.. they can melt to your skin and flame.. lots of DIY retardant recipes online
    Last edited by H80N; 09-11-2015, 07:48 AM.

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  • Aeronca41
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    +1. Wranglers from WM or on sale at KMart are the best in my book.

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  • jsm11
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    Wranglers all day, everyday...

    I no joke, I love how the crotch is stitched in em

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  • ryanjones2150
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    carhartt jeans

    I want a denim apron.

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  • H80N
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    YIKES...!!!!

    I must live in a cave... $300...??... DEE-Riculous..!!!

    that is 20 pair of these...


    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Wrangler-M...-Jeans/2668255

    But... I usually wear denim aprons too... is that cheating..??

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  • jimmy_pop
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    I'd hope the $300 jeans include a left handed stranger from one of those hot female models. about 14 aggressive tugs would do just fine.

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  • DSL Power
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    I like Arbor wear. They make quality appears at a price I can afford and last way longer than my old carharts .

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