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    I am looking for a generator (gas or diesel) with a 14 pin remote. I know the high end newer diesel sets have them, but I am struggling to find a gas model that has it. I have an opportunity to buy a diesel set however in looking at pictures I do not see the 14 pin port. All this so I can run my HF-251D-1 Miller High Frequency ARC Starter with a foot control. Any insight much appreciated.
    Last edited by BecauseARC; 08-31-2015, 09:59 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BecauseARC View Post
      I am looking for a generator (gas or diesel) with a 14 pin remote. I know the high end newer diesel sets have them, but I am struggling to find a gas model that has it. I have an opportunity to buy a diesel set however in looking at pictures I do not see the 14 pin port. All this so I can run my HF-251D-1 Miller High Frequency ARC Starter with a foot control. Any insight much appreciated.
      Lots of gas welders out there...such as tb 251, tb302, tb301..they will all have ac welding current. Still tig welding with a trailblazer is a poor substitute for a dynasty plugged into any genset or wall outlet.
      Lincoln ranger 305g x2
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tryagn5 View Post
        Lots of gas welders out there...such as tb 251, tb302, tb301..they will all have ac welding current. Still tig welding with a trailblazer is a poor substitute for a dynasty plugged into any genset or wall outlet.
        +1...I agree wholeheartedly....

        Have done both... and there is no comparison....
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        • #5
          Unit with 14-pin remote? Big 30 diesel?

          You guys have successfully talked me out of my desire to get my grubby meat hooks on an engine drive with the intent to make it do everything. Although I still believe that for that much money, the dang thing should! But TIG welding aluminum has fallen off my list of requirements for such a machine. Not quite sure what to think of this now. Dang it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ryanjones2150 View Post
            You guys have successfully talked me out of my desire to get my grubby meat hooks on an engine drive with the intent to make it do everything. Although I still believe that for that much money, the dang thing should! But TIG welding aluminum has fallen off my list of requirements for such a machine. Not quite sure what to think of this now. Dang it.
            Your HTP TIG will run off of an engine drive or genset....

            and will give you the versatility and a quality of TIG weld that you could not get close to with an engine drive and HF box...
            A good quality 6.5KW Genset will give you full capability...

            Why not pick up a surplus MEP-XXX ....and run the welders you already have..??..

            You could always paint it blue...
            Last edited by H80N; 08-31-2015, 07:56 PM.
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            • #7
              Unit with 14-pin remote? Big 30 diesel?

              I'm also in it for the backup power aspect for the house. Here on the gulf coast, it's probably a good idea that my GenSet run the whole house. After hurricane Rita, we had 10 days of 100+ degree weather and no electricity. It was brutal. But amazingly enough, we somehow managed to get through it without George Bush being blamed for it or us raping or killing our neighbors.

              I'm looking closely at a new TB or bobcat. I say new because I just don't know enough about the older machines to resurrect one and I certainly don't have the time...as much as I'd like to.

              We'll see.

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              • #8
                Thank you all.

                I have two MEP 802A's but they are set up for house stand by and barn stand by.

                Would a diesel big 30 and a 5 to 14 pin adapter cable work?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BecauseARC View Post
                  Thank you all.

                  I have two MEP 802A's but they are set up for house stand by and barn stand by.

                  Would a diesel big 30 and a 5 to 14 pin adapter cable work?
                  It looks like it is missing the 24vac to power feeders etc

                  see page #11 in the manual

                  http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o473a_mil.pdf



                  Do you have a serial number for that BIG 30..??
                  Last edited by H80N; 09-01-2015, 12:00 PM.
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                  • #10
                    JG073214

                    Thank you, why do they make those adapter cables then? I suppose I could find a 5 pin foot control?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BecauseARC View Post
                      JG073214

                      Thank you, why do they make those adapter cables then? I suppose I could find a 5 pin foot control?
                      OOPS... that serial matches a Thunderbolt...??

                      Model Name: THUNDERBOLT 225 / THUNDERBOLT 225P
                      Serial Number: JG073214
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                      Serial Numbers JF951892 through JH318739 Owners Manual (English).pdf
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BecauseARC View Post
                        JG073214

                        Thank you, why do they make those adapter cables then? I suppose I could find a 5 pin foot control?
                        You could run a 5 pin pedal or a 14 pin with that cable adaptor...

                        (RFCS-5 or RFCS-14 Pedals..)

                        http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o844k_mil.pdf

                        BUT... you will not have the 24vac to power a spoolgun or suitcase feeder...

                        of course you could always install a 24v transformer and retrofit a 14 pin connctor..
                        Last edited by H80N; 09-01-2015, 07:56 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by H80N View Post
                          You could run a 5 pin pedal or a 14 pin with that cable adaptor...

                          (RFCS-5 or RFCS-14 Pedals..)

                          http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o844k_mil.pdf

                          BUT... you will not have the 24vac to power a spoolgun or suitcase feeder...

                          of course you could always install a 24v transformer and retrofit a 14 pin connctor..
                          Bump...

                          I think Duane55 added a 14pin to a Bobcat a few years back...
                          Last edited by H80N; 09-05-2015, 05:46 PM.
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