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    When I got my Dynasty 200 contractor kit, it came with the Dinse connection kit #221322, with two male connectors. No instructions were included with these. I was hoping to use them to make extension cables.

    I could not find any info on these, and what cable sizes these are rated for. I looked up female connectors and there are three types you can buy. Anyone kno what I need?

  • #2
    I got the same connectors with mine and have not used them. However, they are Lenco connectors with a .508 dia pin. Here is a link to a page from the Lenco catalog that shows the male ends




    Not a complete answer but hope it helps. I measured the hole for the cable as .5 " so I'm sure it's not the 4/0 version. Must be one of the other 2.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by H2o View Post
      When I got my Dynasty 200 contractor kit, it came with the Dinse connection kit #221322, with two male connectors. No instructions were included with these. I was hoping to use them to make extension cables.

      I could not find any info on these, and what cable sizes these are rated for. I looked up female connectors and there are three types you can buy. Anyone kno what I need?
      They were in the accessory section of the Miller catalogs. Weldcraft also lists them.

      Griff

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      • #4
        That kit contains two of the LDP-50M connectors in it. They are rated to hold 4ga to 1/0 sized weld cables.

        I usually recommend the kit # 042419 for people that want to make a male/female connection in weld cablse. The kit has one male and one female connector in the kit and fits from No. 2 up to 1/0 weld cables.

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        • #5
          I have a 2/0 wires that came with the welder so I was hoping to use those connectors with that. Those connectors have two markings on the handles that say 3/0 and 4/0 that I thought were meant to indicate where you would cut back the handle to allow for a bigger cable diameter. So I assumed that the connector could be used with that size cable.

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          • #6
            Thanks Aeronca41. Super helpful to see all different connectors. So, it seems to me that the LDP-50/70M have the same inside components, but have a different jacket? All three have the .508 connector, single oval point screws.

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            • #7
              So I just got home. I looked at my connector. My 2/0 wire with shielding fits perfectly in housing entry point. The wire itself fits inside the copper block and is even a little loose. As I had mentioned, the housing has marks for cutting off for larger wire, though I don't know if it would fit in copper block.

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              • #8
                I saw the marks on the rubber cover for 3/0 & 4/0 also-my guess is the same cover is used for the -70 & -95 and the only difference is the size of the hole in the inside brass part-if you buy the -70, they assume you just ignore the marks in the insulator. I'm sure you will really love the Dynasty. Due to family health issues I haven't gotten to use mine nearly as much as I want to but it is just amazing, both capabilities I could never have imagined, and portability to do stick anywhere there's an outlet or generator if you don't need, or want to carry, a bottle.

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                • #9
                  I have had the Dynasty for 10 years now. Absolutely love it. Tig is amazing and it works great for stick. I have never had the time to dive into what it can do with TIG but look forward to it.

                  I am actually looking to use these connectors for my shopmaster 300 that i just picked up. I was looking to use these connectors so I can interchange some of the parts, though of course the shopmaster is much more powerful.
                  Last edited by H2o; 09-02-2015, 08:21 AM.

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                  • #10
                    So I finally called Miller. They claim that what is included with contractor kit, the 221322 is for up to 2/0 wire. But they seem confused as well since they told me the individual part number is 129527 which is for 1/0 max.

                    The male connector for 1/0 to 3/0 is 134460 and Female 136600 (BRWelding calls this a 70 Series Dinse connector)

                    The male connector for #2 to 1/0 is 129527 and Female 129526

                    I think my 221322 package actually has Lenco LDP-70M included or similar. As i mentioned above, my 2/0 wire is a little loose in copper connector, and jacket fits perfectly, without trimming in the shielding/handle. The Lenco Cable Connector PDF shows the LDP-70M is for 1/0 to 2/0.
                    Last edited by H2o; 09-02-2015, 09:35 AM.

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                    • #11
                      So as Lenco makes the connectors, a good resource I found was the Lenco USA site, i thought I would share:



                      Pages 13-16 ish has a lot of the connectors. I am going to pickup some quick connect LDCT-50FA connectors to replace the lugs on there now as the wire is fraying at the lugs. They are relatively cheap and will allow flexibility to go with the Lenco/Miller Dinse connectors. The 45 degree should work well with Shopmaster.

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                      • #12
                        Great info. Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          So I finally got my parts. Here are a few pictures. I uploaded images as it is near impossible to get proper pictures on welding websites, and from vendor; go figure, you would think they want to sell their products... I had to special order the male/female Lenco LDC-70 kit. $82 with shipping. I ordered from http://www.cometsupply.com//
                          Last edited by H2o; 10-08-2015, 12:02 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Here are the connectors installed. I got the 45 degree one so it would come out at an angle as the original cables did. You can also buy ones that go straight down.

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                            • #15
                              Finished the connectors after i found the proper tool to tighten them down. It is nice to have the red female so that you can quickly locate the positive. I could have used red tape, but the red connectors where the same price as black ones... I did a little stick welding this weekend and worked great.

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