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    Just got a hold of a thermal arc arcmaster 185 ac dc inverter tig welder. With all the bells and whistles. Wondering if anyone here owns one that can suggest some good setting to begin with. All other tig welders I've ran didnt give me the options this machine has to offer. Most my aluminum tig welding will be on 14gauge.. to 10gauge. What is good setting that work. .
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    Don't know any settings off my head but I have ran my buddy's and it's a nice little unit. He has done some phenomenal work with it.

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    • #3
      Going to put down some weld tomorrow figured i ask to speed things up a little. If you find out any let me .thanks
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      Miller Bobcat 225NT onan
      Millermatic 211
      Spoolmate 100
      (Retapped to fit regular mig tips)
      Work better & less parts to stock.
      Miller 130xp
      T/A Dragster 85 (portability 11 pounds)
      Oxygen/Acetylene torch set 50'
      2. 4-1/2" grinders
      1. 9" grinder
      14" Makita chop saw
      1/2" Aircat impact gun 900#

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      • #4
        arcmaster 185 anyone own one ?

        What settings are you asking about? If you're talking about the AC balance and frequency, then it depends on what you're looking for out of your weld. If you're used to welding aluminum with an older transformer machine, like I am, that frequency adjustment is a huge change. Because I'm so used to the 60 hz, I have a habit of using a similar setting on my inverter machine. Although I have gotten better at trying to use that feature a little more, trying some new things here and there. Grab some scrap and run a few beads while playing with those settings and you'll dial it in pretty quick. That user interface with all the push buttons and LEDs isn't nearly as complex as it first appears.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by eecervantes83 View Post
          Just got a hold of a thermal arc arcmaster 185 ac dc inverter tig welder. With all the bells and whistles. Wondering if anyone here owns one that can suggest some good setting to begin with. All other tig welders I've ran didnt give me the options this machine has to offer. Most my aluminum tig welding will be on 14gauge.. to 10gauge. What is good setting that work. .
          Think you are talking about the Pro-Wave 185TSW

          It is a neat little unit made by Sanrex in Japan and a real gem.. now out of production .... not to be confused with the current Chinese made units...

          Here is a link to download the manual

          http://victortechnologies.com/IM_Upl...430429-503.pdf

          The only Gotcha on settings is the AC balance...
          It is BACKWARDS from the industry norm.... if you set the balance to %65 it will be %65 percent POSITIVE... not negative

          See page 27 in the manual


          For starters on 10Ga I would try

          140amps AC (modualted by pedal)... Rule of thumb: 1amp per thousandth of an inch as a starting point

          120HZ Freq

          %30 AC Bal (remember it is backwards)

          15 CFH Argon

          Tungsten-- %2 Lanthanated .. taper ground blunted...

          CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN metal

          Match filler to alloy being welded

          try setting your helmet to 10...

          And get your rhythm going...

          That should get you into the neighborhood.. adjust from there..

          I %100 agree with Ryan.... get some scrap and practice practice..practice..

          getting your technique to jibe with the quirks of your model machine might take a little time...

          better not to do OJT on welds that matter...
          Last edited by H80N; 08-08-2015, 08:44 AM.
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          • #6
            arcmaster 185 anyone own one ?

            Good point about the 2% lanthanated tungsten. There are some, including my LWS, that insist on using pure tungsten for welding aluminum. I believe, with the inverter machines at least, pure tungsten is not indicted any longer. I actually use 2% lanthanated for everything, including aluminum on my transformer machine in the drag shop. The only exception is the thoriated tungsten I still use at home, and the only reason I still use it is because I'm trying to use it up so I only have one kind in the tool box. AND I sharpen the stuff to a point, especially when I'm tacking aluminum, then just let the tip ball up however it wants to on its own. Probably not how most people do it, but it works for me.

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            • #7
              Pure Tungsten (green) is for transformers only...

              inverters like Lanthanated, Ceriated and Zirconiated....
              (Thoriated works also but is last on my personal list)

              I prefer %2 Lanthanted for everything myself...

              If you have not already done so... download the Diamond Ground Tungsten guidebook.... it will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about Tungsten selection and prep...

              http://www.diamondground.com/TungstenGuidebook2013.pdf

              Thoriated concern leaflet..

              http://www.diamondground.com/thoriat...-discontinued/

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              *******************************************
              The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

              “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

              Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

              My Blue Stuff:
              Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
              Dynasty 200DX
              Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
              Millermatic 200

              TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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              • #8
                H80N no its not the pro-wave
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                Miller Bobcat 225NT onan
                Millermatic 211
                Spoolmate 100
                (Retapped to fit regular mig tips)
                Work better & less parts to stock.
                Miller 130xp
                T/A Dragster 85 (portability 11 pounds)
                Oxygen/Acetylene torch set 50'
                2. 4-1/2" grinders
                1. 9" grinder
                14" Makita chop saw
                1/2" Aircat impact gun 900#

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                • #9
                  Here's a picture
                  Attached Files
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                  Miller Bobcat 225NT onan
                  Millermatic 211
                  Spoolmate 100
                  (Retapped to fit regular mig tips)
                  Work better & less parts to stock.
                  Miller 130xp
                  T/A Dragster 85 (portability 11 pounds)
                  Oxygen/Acetylene torch set 50'
                  2. 4-1/2" grinders
                  1. 9" grinder
                  14" Makita chop saw
                  1/2" Aircat impact gun 900#

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                  • #10
                    Here's a picture can only upload one at a time
                    Attached Files
                    .
                    Miller Bobcat 225NT onan
                    Millermatic 211
                    Spoolmate 100
                    (Retapped to fit regular mig tips)
                    Work better & less parts to stock.
                    Miller 130xp
                    T/A Dragster 85 (portability 11 pounds)
                    Oxygen/Acetylene torch set 50'
                    2. 4-1/2" grinders
                    1. 9" grinder
                    14" Makita chop saw
                    1/2" Aircat impact gun 900#

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eecervantes83 View Post
                      Here's a picture
                      OK here is the correct manual..
                      (Wave Balance info the same but on page 29 of the PDF)

                      http://victortechnologies.com/IM_Upl...29_Feb2006.pdf

                      here is the service manual

                      http://victortechnologies.com/IM_Upl...0-4884B%29.pdf

                      advice from before should still apply
                      Last edited by H80N; 08-08-2015, 12:29 PM.
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                      *******************************************
                      The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                      “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                      Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                      My Blue Stuff:
                      Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                      Dynasty 200DX
                      Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                      Millermatic 200

                      TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                      • #12
                        arcmaster 185 anyone own one ?

                        Looks like you can adjust the wave form. That's cool. Although I wouldn't know how to use it worth a flip. Figure it out and let me know.

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                        • #13
                          My first project is going to be welding pop cans together. Ill post some pics when I get started
                          .
                          Miller Bobcat 225NT onan
                          Millermatic 211
                          Spoolmate 100
                          (Retapped to fit regular mig tips)
                          Work better & less parts to stock.
                          Miller 130xp
                          T/A Dragster 85 (portability 11 pounds)
                          Oxygen/Acetylene torch set 50'
                          2. 4-1/2" grinders
                          1. 9" grinder
                          14" Makita chop saw
                          1/2" Aircat impact gun 900#

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eecervantes83 View Post
                            My first project is going to be welding pop cans together. Ill post some pics when I get started
                            You might find this of interest then....

                            his settings should be pretty close...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX_sepp9T_M
                            Last edited by H80N; 08-08-2015, 07:19 PM.
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                            *******************************************
                            The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                            “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                            Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                            My Blue Stuff:
                            Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                            Dynasty 200DX
                            Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                            Millermatic 200

                            TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                            • #15
                              arcmaster 185 anyone own one ?

                              I have never welded cans together, but I have ran a bead around the bottom lip. It's great practice in all areas, torch angle, arc length, etc. You have to have a machine that has a stable arc on low amperage though, that's for sure.

                              I'm gonna try doing it again using the pulse settings. I have never used pulse on aluminum.
                              Last edited by ryanjones2150; 08-08-2015, 08:08 PM.

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