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  • Mutimatic JUNK....should've gotten the Lincoln

    Absolutley disgusted with Miller products right now...I just purchased a new Multimatic 200 and tested it out...I plugged in my 220v plug and BAM screen lit once and nothing. That means nothing on 110 or 220v plugs...I know it's BS and it's working because I can plug in my Hypertherm and get power. With the Miller, I cannot get nothing!!! I haven't even had the chance to weld with the ****ed thing yet.

    Maybe I should've went with the lincoln!

  • #2
    Originally posted by mfldmike View Post
    Absolutley disgusted with Miller products right now...I just purchased a new Multimatic 200 and tested it out...I plugged in my 220v plug and BAM screen lit once and nothing. That means nothing on 110 or 220v plugs...I know it's BS and it's working because I can plug in my Hypertherm and get power. With the Miller, I cannot get nothing!!! I haven't even had the chance to weld with the ****ed thing yet.

    Maybe I should've went with the lincoln!
    Miller will make it right-count on it.

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    • #3
      I would give Miller a chance to make it right.. Everyone as a DOA at some point. It's how they handle it that matters most.. You bought quality, and it will extent to the support too.. Generally Lincoln/Tweco/Victor, Esab will also handle things like this correctly.. It's not some cheesy fly by night ebay/etc setup on support..(no need to mention any names here.

      I know the Lincoln is really a nice unit, but the Miller has some nice things going for it too. I almost picked up a Multimatic 200, but went with the larger more powerful Tweco 211. It's super powerful in output on 120 and 240 volts, but a much larger machine.. Great one though. I am not going to move it much, and added the roll bar for when I do..
      Last edited by Scott V; 05-19-2015, 10:38 PM.

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      • #4
        The same thing could have happened to a Lincoln, Did you make sure you have it set for the right voltage, On a lot of the machines you need to set it for 208 or 230 volts single phase, Most residential power is 230 volt and commercial, industrial single phase power will be 208 volt.

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        • #5
          This is your fifth post, no matter what we say, miller sucks, to you, why even bother to post and waste our time

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mfldmike View Post
            Absolutley disgusted with Miller products right now...I just purchased a new Multimatic 200 and tested it out...I plugged in my 220v plug and BAM screen lit once and nothing. That means nothing on 110 or 220v plugs...I know it's BS and it's working because I can plug in my Hypertherm and get power. With the Miller, I cannot get nothing!!! I haven't even had the chance to weld with the ****ed thing yet.

            Maybe I should've went with the lincoln!


            You posted that you have a multimatic 200 back in March 2013:

            ""I think I'm going to pick up the Esab 161LTS today. It's on sale at my LWS...I already have the Miller Multimatic 200, but for the price of the TIG contractor kit for the machine I can get a dedicated TIG machine that will run 6010 cellulosic rods for an extra $200....AND a free new hood. So really the price difference is somewhere in the neighborhood of $50...essentially a steal!""


            Is this the same machine or a new one?? I'm confused.....






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            • #7
              Originally posted by mfldmike View Post
              Absolutley disgusted with Miller products right now...I just purchased a new Multimatic 200 and tested it out...I plugged in my 220v plug and BAM screen lit once and nothing. That means nothing on 110 or 220v plugs...I know it's BS and it's working because I can plug in my Hypertherm and get power. With the Miller, I cannot get nothing!!! I haven't even had the chance to weld with the ****ed thing yet.

              Maybe I should've went with the lincoln!
              More facts are needed. Did you change the plug on the machine to match the power socket in the wall? If so, is it connected properly. (One of the hots to ground, perhaps?)

              As to Miller, versus Lincoln. Both are excellent companies. Before you run down Miller, provide all of the facts like connector hookup, power settings on the machine - are they correct?

              If this is a brand new machine, I can tell you definitively that it was fully tested before it was packed for shipment.
              Last edited by Synchroman; 05-20-2015, 03:53 PM.
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              • #8
                Really?

                First and foremost thread count doesn't matter, there is no need to discredit my opinion based off that. I may not post a lot, but I've been a long time reader...

                As for the first machine, it ran just fine...I was happy with it...with the exception of rod performance (which is why I got rid of it). This was BEFORE I knew about the software update, and even if I did I didn't want to pay for it.

                With that being said, I decided I liked the package enough to try it again. In reference to what I've said, I definitely know how the welder works. I'm familiar with the machine and the type of power it requires.

                I contacted the LWS I purchased the machine from and Miller wanted to replace the power supply. I said that wasn't going to fly, it's essentially paying full price for a refurbished model. The LWS is an hour drive one way for me, besides the sales this would be my fourth trip. Against my better instincts I agreed to have defective unit replaced with a floor display.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mfldmike View Post
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                  I contacted the LWS I purchased the machine from and Miller wanted to replace the power supply. I said that wasn't going to fly, it's essentially paying full price for a refurbished model. The LWS is an hour drive one way for me, besides the sales this would be my fourth trip. Against my better instincts I agreed to have defective unit replaced with a floor display.
                  You had an issue.. both Miller and your LWS stood up to resolve it..

                  Sounds like a satisfactory resolution.. no..??
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mfldmike View Post
                    First and foremost thread count doesn't matter, there is no need to discredit my opinion based off that. I may not post a lot, but I've been a long time reader...

                    As for the first machine, it ran just fine...I was happy with it...with the exception of rod performance (which is why I got rid of it). This was BEFORE I knew about the software update, and even if I did I didn't want to pay for it.

                    With that being said, I decided I liked the package enough to try it again. In reference to what I've said, I definitely know how the welder works. I'm familiar with the machine and the type of power it requires.

                    I contacted the LWS I purchased the machine from and Miller wanted to replace the power supply. I said that wasn't going to fly, it's essentially paying full price for a refurbished model. The LWS is an hour drive one way for me, besides the sales this would be my fourth trip. Against my better instincts I agreed to have defective unit replaced with a floor display.
                    They tried to help you. You refused their offer to repair the machine. Miller should not be faulted for this. A machine that is repaired under warranty is not made used by that repair. The machine became used the day that you bought it and took it home.

                    In the world I live in, I give people a chance to make things right. It has little to do with post count.
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                    • #11
                      Yes, I'd say more issues were avoided.

                      As as for the machine, it's not like I used it for months...it was a couple days old, that's why there are return policies and lemon laws (with vehicles). They should've replaced it from the very beginning.

                      Either way...we'll see how this one goes

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mfldmike View Post
                        Yes, I'd say more issues were avoided.

                        As as for the machine, it's not like I used it for months...it was a couple days old, that's why there are return policies and lemon laws (with vehicles). They should've replaced it from the very beginning.

                        Either way...we'll see how this one goes
                        Sucks to have one dead right away but just so ya know the Lemon law ALLOWS for repairs.

                        The manufacturer gets a chance to make it right with a repair before sending out a new unit.
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                        • #13
                          excuse me, post count does have something to do with it, if it was me, i would start off by an introduction, followed by what you posted later on, explaining your delema. the way you came off in your first post was very unfriendly, almost,looking to shoot down the company and lws. if you treated the lws with the same vibes as your first post, i can see why you were not satisfied, i have been buying blue for over 30 years, and, on occaision, there have been issues, and never, ever has miller let me down. recently i purchased a mm252, my first weld was .500" steel, well, it cooked the gun, melted the plastic all to heck. a quick phone call to lws, and miller rep, explaining how this happened. next day, the rep was at my door with a brand spanking bernard q 300 gun, even swap. i call that product pridemanship. these boys take care of their own. i have never been jerked around by the company, and truthfully, i bet not any one on this forum has, either

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kevin View Post
                            excuse me, post count does have something to do with it, if it was me, i would start off by an introduction, followed by what you posted later on, explaining your delema. the way you came off in your first post was very unfriendly, almost,looking to shoot down the company and lws. if you treated the lws with the same vibes as your first post, i can see why you were not satisfied, i have been buying blue for over 30 years, and, on occaision, there have been issues, and never, ever has miller let me down. recently i purchased a mm252, my first weld was .500" steel, well, it cooked the gun, melted the plastic all to heck. a quick phone call to lws, and miller rep, explaining how this happened. next day, the rep was at my door with a brand spanking bernard q 300 gun, even swap. i call that product pridemanship. these boys take care of their own. i have never been jerked around by the company, and truthfully, i bet not any one on this forum has, either
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Synchroman View Post
                              +1.
                              +2.... Well Put...
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                              Dynasty 200DX
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                              Millermatic 200

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