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    I have been tig welding in my home shop (hobby) for many years with a Century AC/DC 230/140 buzz box using a CK200 water cooled/flex head torch with 25' leads. I just upgraded to a Miller Diversion 180 so I can start to learn to weld aluminum. I like everything about my CK 200 and nothing about the Weld Master model 17 on the Miller. I want to change them. The torch lead coming out of the 180 is fixed in place by a clamping fitting. Does anyone know what I am going to get into when I remove the cover of the machine to try to swap torches?Jim

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    Dinse to Water cooled

    Originally posted by Jim Auguston View Post
    I have been tig welding in my home shop (hobby) for many years with a Century AC/DC 230/140 buzz box using a CK200 water cooled/flex head torch with 25' leads. I just upgraded to a Miller Diversion 180 so I can start to learn to weld aluminum. I like everything about my CK 200 and nothing about the Weld Master model 17 on the Miller. I want to change them. The torch lead coming out of the 180 is fixed in place by a clamping fitting. Does anyone know what I am going to get into when I remove the cover of the machine to try to swap torches?Jim
    Think this thread will be helpful..
    The OP had a really snotty attitude but the info is worth reading..

    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...iversion+torch

    if you convert the front panel to Gas-Thru Dinse then you could use a water cooled adaptor like on a Linc SqWave Tig 175...

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    • #3
      If you describe this guy as having a snotty attitude, you probably think Adolph Hitler was unpleasant.
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      • #4
        It's the INFO that matters...

        Originally posted by WillieB View Post
        If you describe this guy as having a snotty attitude, you probably think Adolph Hitler was unpleasant.
        That poster seems to be long gone...

        but the INFO in the thread could still be useful..

        opposing viewpoints and all.....
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        • #5
          He's the kind of guy i like to push out of my shop doorway. Feel so good after.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by H80N View Post
            Think this thread will be helpful..
            The OP had a really snotty attitude but the info is worth reading..

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            Thanks for sharing this.....It provided breakfast conversation for the entire family!!
            Loved it

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
              Thanks for sharing this.....It provided breakfast conversation for the entire family!!
              Loved it
              Just figured that both the pro and con of modifying it from factory spec/voiding warranty... were worth looking at...

              that thread did that... despite the unpleasantries.....

              Glad it brought some sunshine into your Sunday morning...

              Although if it were my Diversion... I would probably just put a "Stubby Kit" on the factory provided 17 series torch and run 9/20 series cups.. collets and consumables for about $50 ..and be done with it..
              Last edited by H80N; 04-19-2015, 08:27 AM.
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              Dynasty 200DX
              Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
              Millermatic 200

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              • #8
                I do have a stubby kit coming from Weld Monger but I have the CK200 flex head I like and I have had enough of hot torch handles. I now have not much use for the CK 200 so why not put it on the Diversion? I would then swap the Diversion 17 onto the buzz box for the rare occasion I may want to use it.

                Thanks for the input.

                Jim

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jim Auguston View Post
                  I do have a stubby kit coming from Weld Monger but I have the CK200 flex head I like and I have had enough of hot torch handles. I now have not much use for the CK 200 so why not put it on the Diversion? I would then swap the Diversion 17 onto the buzz box for the rare occasion I may want to use it.

                  Thanks for the input.

                  Jim
                  Just figured that you might want to look at it from all the angles...

                  if I were going to go the water cooled route with that machine... the Gas-Thru Dinse would be my choice...
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                  The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                  “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                  Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                  My Blue Stuff:
                  Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                  Dynasty 200DX
                  Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                  Millermatic 200

                  TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by H80N View Post
                    Think this thread will be helpful..
                    The OP had a really snotty attitude but the info is worth reading..

                    http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...iversion+torch

                    if you convert the front panel to Gas-Thru Dinse then you could use a water cooled adaptor like on a Linc SqWave Tig 175...

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                    I just read the above mentioned thread - Wow!!

                    A tutorial on how to not make friends and influence people.

                    I humbly hope I NEVER have that kind of attitude (-:

                    Jim

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                    • #11
                      Don't worry you won't. Just..... when you drink most of a fifth of Jack, stay away from the computer.
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                      • #12
                        New member with a question

                        Ah yes that just made my lunch break fun. Good read.

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                        • #13
                          Willy B,

                          Took my last drink in 1979 so that should not be a problem (-:

                          Jim

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