Moving Millermatic 252

[WillieB]

Millermatic 252 is a near perfect machine. Its greatest shortcoming is its lack of a lifting eye. Loading it in a truck is a PITA, now a cellar post project leads me to want it in the cellar. I have a hatchway to let it down with backhoe, but lack a lifting eye. Have you figured a good option?

[H80N]

Millermatic 252 is a near perfect machine. Its greatest shortcoming is its lack of a lifting eye. Loading it in a truck is a PITA, now a cellar post project leads me to want it in the cellar. I have a hatchway to let it down with backhoe, but lack a lifting eye. Have you figured a good option?

Can you get close enough with a 30A...?? and leave the 252 outside..??

[cruizer]

Well, you have a welder, perhaps merely make a lifting cage

[WillieB]

Well, you have a welder, perhaps merely make a lifting cage

I've been studying on the subject. I used to use plastic 55 gallon cider barrels, I had a cage for them. I wondered about a two point at rear where the upper tank supports are, but couldn't find a strong enough mounting point in front except below the center of gravity.

[cruizer]

The bottle is pretty much the heaviest item, however if you were to move its position to the side, you'd be much better off, building your cage. That or strengthening the existing bottle holder and moving the centre closer to the rear for lifting

[gnforge]

Moving Millermatic 252

Or just let bottle outside & run hose down as would do with suitcase.

[WillieB]

I move 300CF bottles in and out all the time. I have a cap with a short piece of chain welded to it. It would be a welder without tank.

I once had a major mishap with a cider barrel. So I built a 4 caster dolly of three layers of 3/4" plywood. I bored four 1-1/2" holes in it, made two large U shaped arches of 1" galvanized water pipes, and welded them together at the intersection. The barrel was secure in its cage, and couldn't tip over like in a sling. Maybe I'll build a variation on this theme.

[Meltedmetal]

How about a ramp? Machine is a little over 200 lbs. and bring the bottle in separately. Park your truck close by and use a rope for control during descent.---Meltedmetal

[WillieB]

How about a ramp? Machine is a little over 200 lbs. and bring the bottle in separately. Park your truck close by and use a rope for control during descent.---Meltedmetal

I have moved boilers down stairways that way. In this case I have two Bilco style doors one has no stairway. The original purpose was a wood furnace we don't use. The other hatchway has obstacles preventing its use. I'll build a cage.

[H80N]

I have moved boilers down stairways that way. In this case I have two Bilco style doors one has no stairway. The original purpose was a wood furnace we don't use. The other hatchway has obstacles preventing its use. I'll build a cage.

or you could find a decent used MM200 for on site work.. and save your MM252 from the wear and tear... bumps dents.... still see them in the $600 range and they DO have a lifting eye... just a thought..

[WillieB]

or you could find a decent used MM200 for on site work.. and save your MM252 from the wear and tear... bumps dents.... still see them in the $600 range and they DO have a lifting eye... just a thought..

Have you any idea how much mileage Mrs. B would get out of that. Of course, she hasn't been in the cellar in a year or more. It'd be a while before she found out.

Years ago I bought a Jeep I only wanted for its fresh rebuilt engine. It was a back burner project, it sat out in the WAY back a year or more. Upon discovering it she gave me a lot of flack. In her mind this was the ultimate example of male hoarding! She told the story many times to any of her sympathetic friends who would listen. Without mentioning it, I removed the engine, and gave it to a friend who wanted to hook his WWII cannon to it. For more than a year she continued to gripe about this "piece of junk" I said nothing. Eventually she discovered it was gone. I pointed out to her that it couldn't have bothered her much if it took a year to notice it was gone!

Besides, how's she gonna notice one more blue welder around here?

[H80N]

Traditional VT stockpiling....

Haul it out of sight up the logging road uphill into the sugarbush with all the other old iron and other stuff you might need someday....

as a young man in the 1970's.... I found some real treasures in some of those stashes....

it is a tradition that I am sorry to see fading away... some truly wonderful things were preserved that way.... these days that stuff is considered an eyesore or environmental blight...
the greenies have over-regulated that beautiful state into ... a quagmire where locals cannot afford to live...

[Meltedmetal]

Have you any idea how much mileage Mrs. B would get out of that. Of course, she hasn't been in the cellar in a year or more. It'd be a while before she found out.

Years ago I bought a Jeep I only wanted for its fresh rebuilt engine. It was a back burner project, it sat out in the WAY back a year or more. Upon discovering it she gave me a lot of flack. In her mind this was the ultimate example of male hoarding! She told the story many times to any of her sympathetic friends who would listen. Without mentioning it, I removed the engine, and gave it to a friend who wanted to hook his WWII cannon to it. For more than a year she continued to gripe about this "piece of junk" I said nothing. Eventually she discovered it was gone. I pointed out to her that it couldn't have bothered her much if it took a year to notice it was gone!

Besides, how's she gonna notice one more blue welder around here?

I'd have told my wife that she must have dreamt it and that I never had such a thing. She wouldn't buy that story but I'd use it just the same.---Meltedmetal

[BD1]

Just use a couple of nylon slings. Rig tank separate and then machine. OR as mentioned make a lifting setup for it.

[WillieB]

It has been lifted. It was easier than I expected. pass the two ends of a 10 foot rope through the holes in the upper tank support, tie them through the two holes in the lower tank support. Do the same thing with double half hitches through the front handles/lead hangers, passing down to the front casters. Strain is at bottom, gravity thinks it's at top. Toss a chain over a loader bucket, hook the middle of each rope. A little fussing with length, cause the floor is a good ten feet from the sidewalls of the hatchway, It's all good! I know it's blasphemy, I'm just being candid; Miller should have had a lifting eye, better still two.