Advantages of Dynasty/Syncwave Series vs. old Linde UCC-305??

[crwnsvn]

Hello - I am trying to convince my boss to purchase a Miller TIG Dynasty 200DX or a Syncwave 250DX series welder (air cool/foot control). He is not a welder and I have been trying to explain to him the benefits of using one of these Miller models versus the Linde UCC-305 that we currently have. The Linde is 30+ years old, and is becoming very difficult to maintain good arc control. I have tried the Syncwave 250DX model at my buddies shop, and it is awesome. I need help in convincing my boss to purchase a new TIG welder. I am looking for good arguments to convince my boss to finally buy a newer machine. If anyone has any good arguments to buy a new Miller TIG welder, could you please post, I would greatly appreciate it, thanks!

[Dobermann]

Sort of depends on what you want to do with the welder. The old Linde should be pretty good at stick welding and DC TIG welding. I've not used one but I understand it does not offer any sort of AC balance which makes aluminum welding more challenging--although possible.

The Syncho 250 is still a transformer machine but I found it to be pretty easy to use for stick and TIG welding. If has AC balance controls but no variable frequency. It does have a lot of capacity and can weld heavier material than the Dynasty 200 can handle. The Synchowave 250 has a reputation as being virtually indestructable.

The Dynasty 200 has all the modern "bells and whistles" and is light enough to carry around if you have to. At the place where I work, I let them borrow my Dynasty for a short time because they had some welding to do which was away from the place where the Syncho 250 is plugged in. They carried the Dynasty to the site, plugged it into a 120 volt wall socket and welded away. When our owner saw the portable and 120 volt capability, he was excited and they bought a Dynasty 200 "runner" package immediately.

So, as I said, kind of depends on what you want to weld and where you want to weld it.

[H80N]

Buy the Dynasty... You won't be sorry..

Hello - I am trying to convince my boss to purchase a Miller TIG Dynasty 200DX or a Syncwave 250DX series welder (air cool/foot control). He is not a welder and I have been trying to explain to him the benefits of using one of these Miller models versus the Linde UCC-305 that we currently have. The Linde is 30+ years old, and is becoming very difficult to maintain good arc control. I have tried the Syncwave 250DX model at my buddies shop, and it is awesome. I need help in convincing my boss to purchase a new TIG welder. I am looking for good arguments to convince my boss to finally buy a newer machine. If anyone has any good arguments to buy a new Miller TIG welder, could you please post, I would greatly appreciate it, thanks!

I have had my Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner and Dynasty 200DX for several years now and they are AMAZING..!!!..

you can do things with a Dynasty that you could only imagine with a transformer machine...

Yes it is a significant investment but the payback will be quick if you do any volume

Here are a few videos that you might enjoy…

try doing this stuff with your Linde UCC-305 or even Syncrowave
or ANY other transformer sinewave or chopper machine..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db6BVMANvW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPgsXwgQkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohuoWdZ7fW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9aqMknf_0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh5n9fHdGjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUr2hMIrDfo

[M J Mauer]

Welcome to the forum.
Take your boss over to your friends house or shop and show him.

[WillieB]

Are you the weldor? Maybe you don't want one. A beginner he can hire for $12. per hour will quickly achieve a level of success with a Dynasty that would require years of experience with a basic transformer welder. Zap, and Minnesota Dave have fraternal twin welders that look like 1950 refrigerators, and argue they can do as much as my Dynasty 280DX. They are right. What they don't mention is their skill level is at the top 1/10 of a percent of the experts in the world.

If you need to do aluminum I suggest the 280 or 350 with cooler. For steel or stainless, a 200 should do. If you want, I'll give him my phone number. I've drunk the Cool Aid. I think mine is the best welder in the world.

[H80N]

Are you the weldor? Maybe you don't want one. A beginner he can hire for $12. per hour will quickly achieve a level of success with a Dynasty that would require years of experience with a basic transformer welder. Zap, and Minnesota Dave have fraternal twin welders that look like 1950 refrigerators, and argue they can do as much as my Dynasty 280DX. They are right. What they don't mention is their skill level is at the top 1/10 of a percent of the experts in the world.

If you need to do aluminum I suggest the 280 or 350 with cooler. For steel or stainless, a 200 should do. If you want, I'll give him my phone number. I've drunk the Cool Aid. I think mine is the best welder in the world.

But a guy that truly understands the capabilities of the Dynasty can perform PURE MAGIC..!!!..
Just look at the work of John Marcella and Chris Razor... in the videos linked in my earlier post...
Or our own "FusionKing" or "Shovelon"...... both have mastered the Dynasty

here is FusionKing's FB page album.. be prepared to spend some time looking at the photos... there are a lot of them spanning many years...

https://www.facebook.com/OutBackAluminumWelding/photos_stream?ref=page_internal

[Irritantno9]

Inverter vs all the other

If you do nothing but weld DC, it's likely that whatever you have will work fine. If you want to sell on portability, a 350DX is a lot more portable than a 330ABP or dial arc.If you are welding AC, then there is no comparison.Much of it has to do with the wave form.Older sine wave ac machines develop a range / percentage of positive/ negative output that range from 100% to 0 to -100%This means that you only get peak output for a fraction of the cycle.A square wave machine is all or nothing it's either +100 or -100.For all practical purposes.This increases productivity because instead of waiting for the puddle, the puddle is waiting for you.A friend of mine runs a production shop where all aluminum welding was migged. He started looking into getting Tig unit and bought a early dynasty 300dx. Within a year he had replaced all mig units.This was a result of the higher quality produced. It was almost no compromise of speed because mig spatter and weld cleanup & grinding was eliminated.I tried one of this 300DX units and was hooked.I had an old Aircrafter and dialarc and found them to be maddeningly slow and unportable.I ended up buying a 300DX after already buying a 350P. In the end I almost never touched the 350P for the work I was doing.

[crwnsvn]

RE: old vs. new advice

Thanks everyone for all the great advice, pro's and con's to upgrading! I have been welding for +30 yrs, TIG & MIG, so I understand the arguments. Was just looking for some advice that I may have been missing for persuading my boss. We do almost all repair work, some one-off fab stuff, so we do not do lots of volume. I am leaning towards the Dynasty series at this point. Thanks again for all your help! Weld-on!!

[H80N]

Thanks everyone for all the great advice, pro's and con's to upgrading! I have been welding for +30 yrs, TIG & MIG, so I understand the arguments. Was just looking for some advice that I may have been missing for persuading my boss. We do almost all repair work, some one-off fab stuff, so we do not do lots of volume. I am leaning towards the Dynasty series at this point. Thanks again for all your help! Weld-on!!

You will NOT be disappointed with the DYNASTY... the level of TIG arc and bead control will astound you..

It aint your Fathers Syncrowave...

While the Syncrowave was a huge step ahead of the Mag-Amp type Transformer machines like the 330... The Dynasty Advanced Inverters were a quantum leap past the Chopper machines like the Syncrowave

You might want to read this sticky thread on the Dynasty series ..

http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/communities/mboard/showthread.php?18426-Dynasty-Processes-Set-Up

[sledsports]

You guys are salesmen. You make me feel like my syncro is a POS lmao. As bad as I want to taste the coolaid I cant bring myself to drink it yet.

[H80N]

You guys are salesmen. You make me feel like my syncro is a POS lmao. As bad as I want to taste the coolaid I cant bring myself to drink it yet.

To the contrary... no CoolAid...

the Sync is a fabulous machine and had been the world standard since it's introduction more than 35 years ago....

BUT time and technology have been marching on.. and the Dynasty series is even better by a wide margin..

This is not a "New Fangled" bells and whistles deal... no longer exotic or unusual... it has become the norm..

The Dynasy 200DX was introduced about 2002 and has gone through continual development and improvement... having gone through 29 separate iterations since introduction..
So this is a mature and well developed technology...

FWIW I thought long and hard ... worrying nights ...before spending the nearly $10K on my first Dynasty Inverter , a Dynasy 350DX Tigrunner...several years ago...(2008)
I have not been disappointed...
Since then... it has been joined by a Dynasty 200DX and a Millermatic 350P... to modernize the fleet..
Yes that represents a substantial monetary investment... but it has been an investment that has paid off....in vastly improved capability..
This has been money well spent for me...