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  • Do you like the Pyrex cup on a gas lens setup, any reason not to like it.

    I have not been welding a lot for a while. Last quicky project was to weld up a cracked running board for the daughters boyfriend a month ago. I have a few projects coming up I am wanting to do, a lot of aluminum and some stainless trinkets as well. I have never welded with a gas lens and in searching for the one to order for my wp20 I see the Pyrex cup option, I assume visibility is the advantage but is there any reason you would not like one ??

    EDIT: Since no replies yet I will add that while on DG site I came across the Wolfram tungsten at more than double the cost, who here has tried it and have an opinion as to how it might have preformed in the real world ?? I doubt that I am enough of a welder to even appreciate or tell the diff ?
    Last edited by Doug Doty; 01-26-2015, 08:48 PM.
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    Hypertherm PM 45, 2014
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Doug Doty View Post
    I have never welded with a gas lens and in searching for the one to order for my wp20 I see the Pyrex cup option, I assume visibility is the advantage but is there any reason you would not like one ??

    EDIT: Since no replies yet I will add that while on DG site I came across the Wolfram tungsten at more than double the cost, who here has tried it and have an opinion as to how it might have preformed in the real world ?? I doubt that I am enough of a welder to even appreciate or tell the diff ?
    I use gas lens all the time for better gas coverage, you can use less gas flow (cfh) under normal circumstances. I can also stick my tungsten (wolfram) out further if I need to. I haven't used the Pyrex cup either, don't imagine it would have a use for everyday work, maybe tight or hard to reach areas.

    What site is DG? Tungsten is also known as Wolfram, so without seeing the website you refer to I don't have an answer for that, however I have a lot of doubt about tungsten selling at 2X $.
    Last edited by Ltbadd; 01-27-2015, 03:02 PM. Reason: change text
    Richard
    West coast of Florida

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    • #3
      I ordered both versions of gas lens kits, so I will try out the Pyrex and see for my self.

      Yes, price I questioned was DG, $33 vs $78 for wolfram, I'll double check.
      Miller Dynasty 300 DX TR, 2007
      Miller MM 251 w/30A spool gun, 2005
      Lincoln SP-100, 1990
      Hypertherm PM 45, 2014
      Scotchman 5014CM Ironworker 2005
      Grizzly 12x36 lathe 2010
      Wilton Belt sander and Cutoff Bandsaw 2006

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Doug Doty View Post
        I ordered both versions of gas lens kits, so I will try out the Pyrex and see for my self.

        Yes, price I questioned was DG, $33 vs $78 for wolfram, I'll double check.
        I am curious too.... what are the DG and Wolfram sites..??

        could you post links??
        .

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        • #5
          Here is the link. I was off a bit going from memory but the Wolfram is still a good bit more than double. $32.08 vs $74.67 for a (10) pack od 2% Lanthanated 3/32". This link is to Diamond Ground's site and both are offered sided by side here.
          ....
          http://www.diamondground.com/2-lanthanated-blue/
          Last edited by Doug Doty; 01-27-2015, 04:46 PM.
          Miller Dynasty 300 DX TR, 2007
          Miller MM 251 w/30A spool gun, 2005
          Lincoln SP-100, 1990
          Hypertherm PM 45, 2014
          Scotchman 5014CM Ironworker 2005
          Grizzly 12x36 lathe 2010
          Wilton Belt sander and Cutoff Bandsaw 2006

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Doug Doty View Post
            Here is the link. I was off a bit going from memory but the Wolfram is still a good bit more than double. $32.08 vs $73.67 for a (10) pack od 2% Lanthanated.
            ....
            http://www.diamondground.com/2-lanthanated-blue/
            AHA...!! Diamond Ground... Know them well....

            their Tungsten guidebook is a must read for TIG-gers

            http://www.diamondground.com/TungstenGuidebook2013.pdf

            BUT...what is the Wolfram site...??
            .

            *******************************************
            The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

            “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

            Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

            My Blue Stuff:
            Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
            Dynasty 200DX
            Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
            Millermatic 200

            TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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            • #7
              I did not look at their site, the Wolfram pricing is just right along side the DG prices on that link in the right hand column. ??
              Miller Dynasty 300 DX TR, 2007
              Miller MM 251 w/30A spool gun, 2005
              Lincoln SP-100, 1990
              Hypertherm PM 45, 2014
              Scotchman 5014CM Ironworker 2005
              Grizzly 12x36 lathe 2010
              Wilton Belt sander and Cutoff Bandsaw 2006

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Doug Doty View Post
                I did not look at their site, the Wolfram pricing is just right along side the DG prices on that link in the right hand column. ??
                OK.... looks like they have adopted the term "Wolfram" as a trade name for a specialized higher purity/grade of 2% Lanthanated Tungsten....

                Wolfram Industries® - Made in Germany

                BTW... 2% Lanthanated Tungsten is my favorite flavor...

                http://www.diamondground.com/faqs-tungsten/
                Last edited by H80N; 01-27-2015, 05:41 PM.
                .

                *******************************************
                The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                My Blue Stuff:
                Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                Dynasty 200DX
                Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                Millermatic 200

                TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                • #9
                  That guidebook is full of information that I had not previously read or known, I will have to continue reading and re-reading to absorb, my 50 yo brain is not the sponge it used to be.

                  Who else can comment on trying the Wolfram Tungsten ??
                  Miller Dynasty 300 DX TR, 2007
                  Miller MM 251 w/30A spool gun, 2005
                  Lincoln SP-100, 1990
                  Hypertherm PM 45, 2014
                  Scotchman 5014CM Ironworker 2005
                  Grizzly 12x36 lathe 2010
                  Wilton Belt sander and Cutoff Bandsaw 2006

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Doug Doty View Post
                    Who else can comment on trying the Wolfram Tungsten ??
                    Well the benefits of their Wolfram Tungsten (according to DG) is;

                    • Reliable arc-striking
                    • Low burn-off rate
                    • Highest quality of arc
                    • 35% less power consumption
                    • 40% prolonged service life
                    • 50% less set-up costs
                    • 50% less gas consumption
                    • 100% reproducible results

                    I'd have to try their tungsten to see for myself, however except for the most demanding or critical application not sure the extra $ is worth it, unless of course someone else is paying...
                    Richard
                    West coast of Florida

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                    • #11
                      I've never used up an ink pen to the end, let alone using up an electrode through natural wear or erosion, I am too rookie and get mine contaminated so often I am always cutting and re-sharpening so in other words I waste 75% of an electrode, so while I am always curious I am not worthy of $7 a piece electrodes unless they refuse to get dipped in the puddle.
                      Miller Dynasty 300 DX TR, 2007
                      Miller MM 251 w/30A spool gun, 2005
                      Lincoln SP-100, 1990
                      Hypertherm PM 45, 2014
                      Scotchman 5014CM Ironworker 2005
                      Grizzly 12x36 lathe 2010
                      Wilton Belt sander and Cutoff Bandsaw 2006

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