Looking to get Industrial

[Stubs]

I love my old Hobart TigWave but after building a few heavier projects, it is lacking.

I have 240 3phase power now and would like to add the capacity of a 400-600 amp 100% duty cycle unit. Prefer multi process, CC/CV, ability to have air carbon, stick stinger and a some sort of industrial wire feeder. I'm leery of the inverter and lots of digital controls as I plan on having it forever. I'm on cheap power and will run 150# of wire a year so the efficiency of an inverter impresses me less than the bullet proof nature of a SCR.

Am I overly concerned about the inverter? If so what would be a good choice? I know the red line but not impressed with the people. I need a Miller history to keep up with what the various prefixes and model numbers equate to.

Prefer used and stay under $5k

Thanks

[H80N]

I love my old Hobart TigWave but after building a few heavier projects, it is lacking.

I have 240 3phase power now and would like to add the capacity of a 400-600 amp 100% duty cycle unit. Prefer multi process, CC/CV, ability to have air carbon, stick stinger and a some sort of industrial wire feeder. I'm leery of the inverter and lots of digital controls as I plan on having it forever. I'm on cheap power and will run 150# of wire a year so the efficiency of an inverter impresses me less than the bullet proof nature of a SCR.

Am I overly concerned about the inverter? If so what would be a good choice? I know the red line but not impressed with the people. I need a Miller history to keep up with what the various prefixes and model numbers equate to.

Prefer used and stay under $5k

Thanks

AC-DC..??.... or is just DC for steel and no aluminum TIG going to meet your needs..??

Lots of good used 3phase stuff out there pretty reasonable..

[Stubs]

3 phase with AC output.....?

No I'm going to stick to steel.

Hope for some light on Miller. Lots of Lincoln dc400 and 600 machines but I don't know the older miller numbers much less their reputation.

[H80N]

3 phase with AC output.....?

No I'm going to stick to steel.

Hope for some light on Miller. Lots of Lincoln dc400 and 600 machines but I don't know the older miller numbers much less their reputation.

To the best of my knowledge... all of the Syncrowaves (AC/DC TIG) are single phase.. Do not know of any 3phase Miller AC/DC TIGs

But believe there are a bunch of DC only models

[Stubs]

Tig is already covered by my 20 year old Hobart square wave machine.

My challenge is long welds in 1/2"+ plate. 5/32" 7024 gets old and is about all I can push with the Hobart. I was warned not to air gouge when I bought it. I want that capacity.

I'm NOT looking for a tig or aluminum machine. Sincrowave is a fantastic machine but not what someone who wants to build heavy farm equipment is after.

[H80N]

Tig is already covered by my 20 year old Hobart square wave machine.

My challenge is long welds in 1/2"+ plate. 5/32" 7024 gets old and is about all I can push with the Hobart. I was warned not to air gouge when I bought it. I want that capacity.

I'm NOT looking for a tig or aluminum machine. Sincrowave is a fantastic machine but not what someone who wants to build heavy farm equipment is after.

There are machines like the CP/CC 1500-P

it might cover your needs....

http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o271d_mil.pdf

[Stubs]

Oh that's nice lol. I only have a 400 amp service so that 1500 amp beast is just a little bit overkill.

I also left SubArc off my to do list but I like how you think.

XMT 450 or a Dimension 652 (452?) Is the current models I'm thinking about. Used and a few years old I hope to find a dimension that got replaced by an inverter for power savings. Trouble I have is that miller seems to have changed the numbers a lot. If it is not a shop mate anyway.

A used power supply and a new suitcase feeder makes sense to me. Fill me in if I'm out of line.

[H80N]

Oh that's nice lol. I only have a 400 amp service so that 1500 amp beast is just a little bit overkill.

only draws 308amps 3phase @ 230vac (even less w/PFC 270amps)..

would hate to source the 1500amp TIG torch for it... probably resembles a baseball bat...

[MMW]

If I needed to weld plate I would be looking for a used Deltaweld 452 & a 22a feeder. That would cover the welding part of it. As far as stick & cac I would find an old Lincoln or Miller 500 amp stick welder. I used this set up for years in a fab shop running 1/16" & 5/64" wire & it is bullet proof.

[Stubs]

update

Although older and in less than ideal condition, a DeltaWeld 450 with a D-52a dual head feeder for $350 went into the back of the Kenworth on my way home from delivering potatoes. I need to switch to low voltage (of course THAT part of the decal is missing), get some gas equipment (big tank and a regulator) and unload the .035 304 wire that is in the one side with a gun. I will give it a good clean out before powering up. Guess I can live without ACA and stick for now.

[H80N]

Although older and in less than ideal condition, a DeltaWeld 450 with a D-52a dual head feeder for $350 went into the back of the Kenworth on my way home from delivering potatoes. I need to switch to low voltage (of course THAT part of the decal is missing), get some gas equipment (big tank and a regulator) and unload the .035 304 wire that is in the one side with a gun. I will give it a good clean out before powering up. Guess I can live without ACA and stick for now.

You can match your serial number to the correct user manual here... that will give you the proper strapping for your voltage..

http://www.millerwelds.com/service/ownersmanuals.php

sounds like a heck of a deal.... CONGRATS!!

PLS post some pics and keep us apprised of how it is going..

[Stubs]

I may have to download a few more manuals because the one I got from miller (thanks for the link but I was already there) did not have a diagram.

[H80N]

I may have to download a few more manuals because the one I got from miller (thanks for the link but I was already there) did not have a diagram.

Serial Number...???

this one may or may not match your machines serial...

but the jumper diagram is on page 7 of the manual (page 11 of the PDF)

http://www.millerwelds.com/service/ownersmanuals.php

[Tryagn5]

Although older and in less than ideal condition, a DeltaWeld 450 with a D-52a dual head feeder for $350 went into the back of the Kenworth on my way home from delivering potatoes. I need to switch to low voltage (of course THAT part of the decal is missing), get some gas equipment (big tank and a regulator) and unload the .035 304 wire that is in the one side with a gun. I will give it a good clean out before powering up. Guess I can live without ACA and stick for now.

fyi air arcing can be done on a cv machine. Infact used a delta weld 452 for years to air arc. Never hurt the machine.
worked very well.
Kevin

[Stubs]

Got it. Also after more carefully looking at the wiring diagram (in the first manual I got) it was obvious. I picked up the last 37' of 4-4awg wire, copper ends, exc. for $140. Hope to get a good cleaning and the wire done later. If I'm lucky I'll have time to check out the brushes in the feeder and disassemble/clean/inspect the gun.