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Detached garage ~110 Ft. away. Dynasty 200dx Voltage drop a issue with SOOW cord?

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  • WillieB
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    When the biggest distributor in the country sells it for a given price it isn't a great price, it's a fair price, or correct price.

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  • Outdoort
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    Just a update in case anyone is wondering. Thanks for all the replies so far. Me and my girl actually found a new place to rent with a nice garage and were planning on moving in dec 1st.

    So this means that no need to run this extension cord as soon il have a garage with proper power. And no stealing power lol. Im really excited too cuz i really havent used this welder much at all and it kinda blows spending all that money without even being able to use it.

    Also just a heads up on this soow cord. Not sure what prices u guys are paying for this stuff but i seemed to find a real good deal at my local greybar electrical supplier.

    They quoted me 150 bucks for 125' of soow 10/3. $160 for 125' of sjoow 10/3 (guy said he could give me a better deal for soow cuz he had a few hundred feet in stock. And $225 for 125' of soow 8/3.

    seems better than prices ive seen online.

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  • Portable Welder
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    Brocolli gave you a cheaper chord to run, you don't need 600 volt cable in your situation, So take his advise.

    #2 Don't steal your neighbors power, we already have enough scum bags in this world.

    #3 Chances are, your landlord is a good dude to let you do this and to say he would help is a good thing, Make good relations and do it the right way and do a buried cable, in the event you don't take my advise, All the guys here have given good advise.

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  • Legion
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    Apples and oranges but I use a ~72' extension cord with my 200DX, but it was originally a 415V 50A cord (I rewired it to suit my socket/welder with 32A connections). According to the spec sheet I've got a huge safety margin.

    Like someone else said, I spent big money on the wall socket in order to make sure I had a more than sufficient supply for my $$ machine. No point hamstringing it.

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  • Bodybagger
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    I use a 10ga 100ft extension cord on 240v made from SO cable all the time for the Dynasty and the Power Mig 180. No hiccups. Do not wire the extension cord directly into the box.

    I had a 30ft section of 6ga SO wired into a junction box in my shop at home so I could bring my outlet to the work. I had a break-in by the meth heads with lots of tools lost, etc. About 2 days after that happened, I learned the hard way that they hacked off my "remote outlet" to scrap it for drug money. I was so focused on the missing tools, air compressor, saw, etc, that I didn't notice the cable was not coiled on the wall. I flipped the breaker for the welding circuit (which is in the house and was always turned off when not in use), grabbed a drink from the refrigerator, and walked calmly toward the shop. I saw billowing dark smoke as I rounded the corner. It burned to the ground, aided by a venting oxyacetelene setup. I lost about $20,000 of stuff that wasn't covered by insurance. All so a meth head could get ten dollars of scrap to feed their habit.

    So - don't permanently wire an extension cord into a box even if you are "smarter than the code" as I was. People who are "dumber than the code" will almost certainly come along. And there's a little clause in most homeowners and renters insurance policies stating that they "exclude any loss resulting from improper workmanship or materials" ie an electric code violation. Ask me how I learned that and I'll tell you "the hard way."

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  • Broccoli1
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    Originally posted by Outdoort View Post
    Also. I'm planning on buying a miller 211 mig welder and a hypotherm 45 in the future. Both those machines will draw 30 amps or less I'm pretty sure, so I don't think that changes much for me?

    Alright I guess I might just buy some 10 gauge SJ00W cord and save some bucks. The price on this stuff really increases jumping up to 8 gauge.
    You gonna need something that makes air for the Plasma cutter.

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  • wroughtnharv
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    A couple of questions.

    The 110 feet? is that finished measurement or building to building?

    Will your landloard install a dedicated 30 amp plug for you beside the breaker box?

    Does anyone know if low voltage will have a severe negative effect on the DX?

    How much trouble is it to lay out and retrieve the power cord? obstacles etc?

    I understand the passion and I appreciate the budget constraints, that's life. But if it was me I think I would consider the cord but I would go bigger. The logic on that is I could then use the cord at my place when I get it. You can pull the cord in conduit for multiple locations for welder plugs in your shop when the ship comes in.

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  • WillieB
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    NEC prohibits extension cords for permanent use for safety reasons. People do stupid things to extension cords. Voltage loss is less a concern to auto line welders, but remember that as voltage falls, amperage rises. Very soon your #8 isn't heavy enough. Many thousands of people toggle something together that works. Occasionally this ends in tragedy. I urge you to talk to a REAL electrician chosen for knowledge not price, and get his advice. You have the best welder in the world, it wasn't cheap. Why limit its usefulness with a [email protected]#%)d up power supply?

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  • Outdoort
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    Also. I'm planning on buying a miller 211 mig welder and a hypotherm 45 in the future. Both those machines will draw 30 amps or less I'm pretty sure, so I don't think that changes much for me?

    Alright I guess I might just buy some 10 gauge SJ00W cord and save some bucks. The price on this stuff really increases jumping up to 8 gauge.

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  • GlenC
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    I have used my Dynasty 200DX at 200A on a 240V 20A breaker .... For 100+ feet, I would want to run #8 @30A... #10 @25A .... You could roll it out when you are going to use the welder and when you move, you can take it with you!

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  • FusionKing
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    I have run 100+ ft with 10ga SO cord with 3 different Dynasties for YEARS [email protected] !!! (with no problem whatsoever)
    I wouldn't hesitate on the cord. Now the hanging part, and the permanent wiring etc...
    The drier is looking better, just watch out for lawnmowers!!
    Talking 240v here not 120v

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  • Broccoli1
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    Originally posted by Outdoort View Post
    Lol Ya. I this whole hobby/future profession is putting a dent in my wallet! I barely afforded the dynasty and was sooo close to buying the Everlast but just couldn't do it. I don't support a company that is as active as they are in these forums (let alone all the forum members that "work for" them. And all the Deleted threads that are talked about whether that is their fault or not, just seems like something is being hidden.

    Anyway. Why the 6-50r in the basement? and can I not just have the 8 gauge SOOW wired directly into the panel?? Thats what the plan was I think.

    I already have a drier plug down there, but without getting into too much side talk, it could be wired to the neighbors panel (meaning they would be paying for my electricity use Ha Ha)
    I thought the landlord was going to pay for the receptacle in the basement??

    Anyhoo- code violation to run that SO cord in to the panel. And technically if it WAS wired direct, it belongs to the landlord If he want to be a d*ck about it when you moved out.

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  • Broccoli1
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    Originally posted by Outdoort View Post
    By the way. Seems like a good group of folks here, but, Do we not have sub forums here???
    Nope- just the 3- keeps it clean and tidy

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  • Outdoort
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    By the way. Seems like a good group of folks here, but, Do we not have sub forums here???

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  • Outdoort
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    Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    Just make sure the Landlord wires up the 6-50 receptacle in the basement with 6g wire.

    From there you could run your cord to the geeerage.

    Poor performance means that the machine will not operate at listed settings.

    Look for SJO cord- should be a little cheaper J= Junior 300v rating

    SO is rated for 600v

    still gonna put a dent in yer wallet

    Lol Ya. I this whole hobby/future profession is putting a dent in my wallet! I barely afforded the dynasty and was sooo close to buying the Everlast but just couldn't do it. I don't support a company that is as active as they are in these forums (let alone all the forum members that "work for" them. And all the Deleted threads that are talked about whether that is their fault or not, just seems like something is being hidden.

    Anyway. Why the 6-50r in the basement? and can I not just have the 8 gauge SOOW wired directly into the panel?? Thats what the plan was I think.

    I already have a drier plug down there, but without getting into too much side talk, it could be wired to the neighbors panel (meaning they would be paying for my electricity use Ha Ha)

    Leave a comment:

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