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    I have a 212 that is about 3 years old that a friend passed on to me. I have used the unit once about a month ago and all was fine.Today 1) I cannot get an arc when using the standard gun even if I touch the grounding clip direct, but the wire feeds, 2) when I try the same thing with the aluminum gun, it arcs.I know nothing about this. I have checked connections, and voltage to the unit.I tried to "short" across the terminals and got nothing.ANY HELP is appreciated!!

  • #2
    Basically, it has open circuit voltage, as the aluminum gun works. Can't short the terminals as the unit goes to jog (no OCV) within a few seconds. Sooo, your mig gun is pooched and requires a replacement, or repair. This damaged is caused by yarding the machine around with the gun

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    • #3
      Thank you

      [QUOTE=cruizer;325415]Basically, it has open circuit voltage, as the aluminum gun works. Can't short the terminals as the unit goes to jog (no OCV) within a few seconds. Sooo, your mig gun is pooched and requires a replacement, or repair. This damaged is caused by yarding the machine around with the gun[/QUOT

      Thank you for the help!
      For future reference, should I not leave the guns plugged into the unit?
      The gun probably doesn't have 15 hours of use.
      Any idea, what repairs might run?

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      • #4
        Don't pull the welder around by the gun... it is not a tow rope..

        You will damage or destroy it...
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        • #5
          See if you can borrow a miller gun to try in it. If it works goo, then you have your answer. The lug is bolted onto the wire feeder portion isnt it?
          If it were mine, I would probably disassemble the gun at both ends and see if I could see the problem. I have shortened a few guns, and it is usually not that hard to get it down to the cablehose.

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          • #6
            Andy
            How did you crimp the wire mesh back on the end
            I have a couple that are broken

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            • #7
              Gland nuts squish the cable back on, a bit of a delight if you've never done it before. However, if your in a squeeze for time. I use an aircraft stainless/nickle tye wire as it doesn't work harden. A couple twists and off you go. Problem is finding the tye wire. Can't use the run of the mill home depot crap, as it'll break with a little heat.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                Gland nuts squish the cable back on, a bit of a delight if you've never done it before. However, if your in a squeeze for time. I use an aircraft stainless/nickle tye wire as it doesn't work harden. A couple twists and off you go. Problem is finding the tye wire. Can't use the run of the mill home depot crap, as it'll break with a little heat.
                Safety wire is not cheap but readily available from aviation suppliers...

                I kinda favor the MONEL...it does not fatigue, harden or corrode easily..

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                • #9
                  Just getting back to this
                  The only Gland nuts I can find seem to find are called cable gland nuts.
                  So I found safety wire on Ebay



                  Would that work?
                  Thanks

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                  • #10
                    Ahhh no, aircraft tye wire. we use it to harness nuts, bolts and critical hardware from comming loose, whilst flying. comes in 030/035/045 spools

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