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    Spoolmatic 30A TIP confusion......

    Hi All
    I ordered tips fo my 30A spoolmatic from an internet supplier.. and recieved tips for the XR.... when I called them to get the problem resolved.. was told that my gun must have been special ordered with the fastip option.. which it was not.. Miller literature both the sales flyer and owners manual both list the fastip as the only style.. at least as of April 2003...
    My question is.. did the 30A ever share the nonthreaded tips with the XR or were these guys just trying to feed me wet rose food???
    Thanks

    Heiti
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    Hi
    I emailed the supplier with links to the Miller sales flyer and the owners manual... got a curious response...
    have excerpted the email:

    "It appears they have made the Fastip swan neck the standard neck on this
    gun. Also, after a quick review, it appears this spool gun is manufactured
    by someone other than the "Old" supplier. The gun is not the same
    construction as previous."

    OK guys is this true? or are my roses really gonna give big blooms this year????
    How about it Scott? Andy?.....

    thanks
    Heiti
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    *******************************************
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

    “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

    Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

    My Blue Stuff:
    Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
    Dynasty 200DX
    Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
    Millermatic 200

    TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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    • #3
      Heiti,

      Miller has introduced the "FasTip" in the 30A. I think I have some contact tips for my old 30A. Let me see what they are. I found them stashed in a cabinet. The package listing is:
      XR /XRM -15A/30A and 15W/30W
      XR Edge and Spoolmatic 30A/30W
      Consists of : 10 (135427) contact tips .030/.036ID
      They are not threaded. These are not the fast tip. So you need part number 135427 for the 30A spoolmatic prior to the fast tip introduction. This is what I use for .035 wire. I think they are for .030 wire as well, but I don't go that small. I only run .035 and 1/16" aluminum.


      Yes the XR and 30A shared the same non threaded tips at one time according to this package.

      Does this help?

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      • #4
        Hawk
        thanks.... any idea when they changed over to the fastip style??

        Heiti
        .

        *******************************************
        The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

        “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

        Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

        My Blue Stuff:
        Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
        Dynasty 200DX
        Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
        Millermatic 200

        TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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        • #5
          H80N,

          I know the new 2004 Miller catalog shows the 30A with the "FasTip". I have a newer XR edge gun I bought late in 2003 around August or September and it has the (FasTip). My guess is Miller changed around the 4th quarter of 2003 in the XR and the 30A. Let me know if you can't get the tips. My dealer keeps .035, .045, and I think .052 on the shelf.

          HAWK

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          • #6
            H80N,
            The 30A and the XR guns shared the same non-threaded tip until late last year. The official date they changed completely over to the fas-tip was 11-17-03. The 30A you have is one of the first 30A's sold with the fas-tip as standard equipment. The XR guns also changed to the fas-tip last year.

            Kevin



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            Kevin Schuh
            Service Technician
            Miller Electric Mfg. Co.

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            • #7
              Thanks Kevin

              Been out of town quite a bit lately. It's nice to know someone is looking after my site

              Andy

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              • #8
                Kevin
                thanks for the info.... and by the way... I think you guys owe HAWK a "HUGE" thank you for all that he has been doing... this forum has been more like "ASK HAWK" than anything else for quite some time now.... you ought to hire him as a paid consultant... his knowledge and patience are outstanding.... if no one else will say it.. I will.... THANKS HAWK... you are appreciated around here .. am sure that many others feel the same...
                thanks
                Heiti
                .

                *******************************************
                The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

                “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten”

                Buy the best tools you can afford.. Learn to use them to the best of your ability.. and take care of them...

                My Blue Stuff:
                Dynasty 350DX Tigrunner
                Dynasty 200DX
                Millermatic 350P w/25ft Alumapro & 30A
                Millermatic 200

                TONS of Non-Blue Equip, plus CNC Mill, Lathes & a Plasmacam w/ PowerMax-1000

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                • #9
                  H80N
                  That is one of the great things about boards such as this. There is such a diverse group with so much experience and knowledge available here that we all can learn.

                  Thanks to you, Hawk and everyone else that contributes their knowledge and experience to this board.


                  Kevin



                  [email protected]
                  Kevin Schuh
                  Service Technician
                  Miller Electric Mfg. Co.

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                  • #10
                    10-4
                    I agree. Thanks to everyone who helps out here!

                    Andy

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