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  • Gooseneck plate to frame... Stick or Mig?

    I have a MM 175 or Trailblazer 301g

    The plate is 1x8 inches will be welding to the side areas of frame not top.

  • #2
    Originally posted by joulian View Post
    I have a MM 175 or Trailblazer 301g

    The plate is 1x8 inches will be welding to the side areas of frame not top.
    No brainer. Stick. You don't have enough machine to wire weld.

    Griff

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    • #3
      Originally posted by griff01 View Post
      No brainer. Stick. You don't have enough machine to wire weld.

      Griff

      Yea thats what I was leaning towards. Got everything prepped for tomorrow to weld in-place. What size rods would you recommend? I don't weld 1" enough to be familiar.

      out of curiosity what size mig would one need to weld something that thick and if I had one that big , then which would be preferred mig or stick?

      Thanks for input...

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      • #4
        Neither one. Weld clips to the 8" flat and bolt it I to the web of the chassis
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        • #5
          These questions make me wonder if you should be welding to a frame. Why can't you bolt it on? What type of vehicle is this going on?
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          • #6
            Bolting it would be a better bet

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            • #7
              Every gooseneck or 5th wheel hitches I've seen are all bolted on. Now if you do weld it on, I would still put a couple of bolts as a mechanical safety

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              • #8
                Normally some preheat would be part of the plan for one inch. Especially when there is such a disparity in thicknesses. Seems like any amp setting high enough to get good depth of fusion on one inch would be likely to turn the relatively thin frame material to crispy bacon like material.

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                • #9
                  Sound like u have no idea what he doing . Just pay and have the gooseneck plate installed by professional.
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                  • #10
                    I got it. I loaded up dump trailer and 5 cubic yards of top soil and went around the block braking and accelerating. Its ok

                    Thanks for the input guys. I was intending on sticking it but someone I know mentioned mig and I started questioning myself... anyway..

                    The rods were actually burning into the 1" plate faster than the frame.
                    Its on a Dodge 3/4 ton

                    Originally posted by eecervantes83 View Post
                    Sound like u have no idea what he doing . Just pay and have the gooseneck plate installed by professional.
                    Last edited by joulian; 09-21-2014, 05:42 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I guess the 1" would be what A36 and the frame something better t190? maybe? anybody know?

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                      • #12
                        Unfortunately its going to break. Not if... When.
                        Dynasty 400 wireless
                        Coolmate 3.5
                        Sw320 speedway
                        Ck flex lock 230
                        4 victor flow meters
                        2 Flametech Duel flowmeters
                        2 genuine miller torch buttons
                        A$$ loads of tungsten
                        XMT 350 CC/CV
                        S74DX feeder
                        Stick leads from here to China
                        A30 Spool gun
                        WC24
                        Langmuir crossfire hobby table
                        Everlast powerplasma 100 w hypertherm torch
                        Harris O/A
                        Pet raccoon
                        I'm just a peckerwood in the boonies with fancy welding equipment

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                        • #13
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                          Unfortunately its going to break. Not if... When.
                          +1 add bolts! sleep better!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sledsports View Post
                            Unfortunately its going to break. Not if... When.

                            I don't know..... I have had a 98 Dodge ram 3/4 ton with a plate welded in now for 10 yrs and its actually a 6 inch wide plate ( the new one 8" ) it hasn't shown any signs of breakage. I pull 10,000 lbs plus everytime I hook a gooseneck to it.

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                            • #15
                              Could you describe exactly what you have? A gooseneck "plate" is a 2' by just wider than the frame 3/8 or thicker piece of plate steel with a buildup and 2 5/16 ball in the center that bolts through the sheet metal bed into the frame. I'm assuming by your speech you didn't weld that to the sheet metal. Did you weld a piece of channel on between the frame or something similar?

                              Disregard the above, I reread the first post and understand now.

                              How many passes? What rod and heat? Did you take off the bed to weld topside? Pictures?
                              Last edited by fencemaker; 09-22-2014, 12:58 AM.

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