miller 12vs versus 12rc

[aneuploidy]

I'm gonna try finding one of these used. I've read on some forum threads that the RCs are easier to weld with/get better results. And, I really don't need to go beyond 50 feet from the power source. But, I have also been told that the RCs might have more issues and costs associated with electronic/mechanical problems. Any thoughts on this? I figure I'd just go with what I can find for a good price.
Also, is there a difference between the ones that say xtreme and the ones that don't.

Thanks

[Portable Welder]

If you want a welder that welds like your 211 you need to go with the RC feeder verses a VS .

[Bob Miller]

Rc

If you get the RC (my choice) you will need a control cable at the minium.
Next would be a gas hose for solid wire.
And you would need welding cable, I would suggest 1/0, that will go to 400 amps at a real low duty cycle. But the TB only goes 325 CV. And Lets face it if you need 325 amps at 100% duty cycle you would have bought a bigger machine.
But for farm work it's perfect.
A 50' work/ground lead and a 50' pos. lead ,male twist lock on the back of the RC
and female twist lock at the end of the pos. lead.
A male twist lock and short 1/0 whip with an electrode holder at the other end and you can do anything, including dual sheild.

Later you can add an Air Arc to use your compressor.

Now the VS: Two 50' leads the male/female twist locks, a work/ground clamp(two hands to squeeze and brass pads), stinger/electrode holder with whip. Done.


Lets talk about whips, I thought the perfect whip would be 25'.
You can use it for a stinger on the tail gate and a whip at the end of some 2/0.
Turn out it's too short for a stinger and too long for a whip.
Your whip should be long enough so that you do'nt have to carry the weight of the 2 twist locks in the air. (15' 1/0 is about max)
I went to a (so to speak) 50' whip. Stinger at the end of 50' of cable, then I back that up with 50' of cable with the twist locks. (this works for my 8RC as the main cable). I also carry two 50' lengths of 2/0 to get away from the truck.( helps the duty cycle also).

Good Luck,
Bob

[aneuploidy]

If you get the RC (my choice) you will need a control cable at the minium.
Next would be a gas hose for solid wire.
And you would need welding cable, I would suggest 1/0, that will go to 400 amps at a real low duty cycle. But the TB only goes 325 CV. And Lets face it if you need 325 amps at 100% duty cycle you would have bought a bigger machine.
But for farm work it's perfect.
A 50' work/ground lead and a 50' pos. lead ,male twist lock on the back of the RC
and female twist lock at the end of the pos. lead.
A male twist lock and short 1/0 whip with an electrode holder at the other end and you can do anything, including dual sheild.

Later you can add an Air Arc to use your compressor.

Now the VS: Two 50' leads the male/female twist locks, a work/ground clamp(two hands to squeeze and brass pads), stinger/electrode holder with whip. Done.


Lets talk about whips, I thought the perfect whip would be 25'.
You can use it for a stinger on the tail gate and a whip at the end of some 2/0.
Turn out it's too short for a stinger and too long for a whip.
Your whip should be long enough so that you do'nt have to carry the weight of the 2 twist locks in the air. (15' 1/0 is about max)
I went to a (so to speak) 50' whip. Stinger at the end of 50' of cable, then I back that up with 50' of cable with the twist locks. (this works for my 8RC as the main cable). I also carry two 50' lengths of 2/0 to get away from the truck.( helps the duty cycle also).

Good Luck,
Bob

Thanks for all the help Bob and everyone else. I will keep my eye out for a good used 12RC. In the meantime, I think I will give stick a shot and see how it comes out. Thanks again for everything.

[cayager]

to me having a machine that has remote capabilities I would never buy a voltage sensing feeder. just me. more control with the rc

[fdcmiami]

to me having a machine that has remote capabilities I would never buy a voltage sensing feeder. just me. more control with the rc

ok, gang. just can't take this any longer. if you want remote capabilities with your 12VS and you are the owner of a miller unit with 14 pin plug then either buy a rhc-14 remote, or a profax knockoff or a wireless remote and adjust the voltage at the machine. bingo.

I have an 8rc, ln25, and 12vs. they can all be operated remotely. the only limitation is distance and that is rarely a factor. frankly when I have found myself on a site on an upper floor I am usually working off a bank of inverters.

there is no difference in comparative weld capabilities of the two units; how many times does miller have to say so.

ok, got to get going. lol

[Bob Miller]

aneuploidy,

One thing to watch out for if you get the 8RC/VS is the wire types.
Quantum Arc 6 only comes on the 12'' roll, so your limited in that respect.
I see a couple of feeders on the List in OR. (8VS and a 12RC)
Kinda far from TX though.

Just one more thing, 30A spool gun for all your aluminum needs.

Good Luck,
Bob

[aneuploidy]

Thanks for the info Bob.