Where is my "Made in USA" label on my Dynasty700?

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  • Miller Apfall
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 6

    #16
    Looking at the serial number (tied to a manufacture date) it appears that your machine was made right during the transition period of the labeling. This would not be a drop in quality control, rather, it is entirely possible that the production line was utilizing the remaining labels. As a result there could have been a short period of overlap during the switch. I did check the machines coming down the line today and they do have the labeling showing it was manufactured in Appleton, WI, USA.
    Andrew Pfaller
    Product Manager
    Miller Electric Mfg. Co.

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    • Helios
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 634

      #17
      Originally posted by shovelon View Post
      Thanks Andrew, but there is nothing on the rating label except a warning " Evidence of label tampering voids warranty", with a blank spot underneath.
      Better send it back for warranty service! How can you possibly use it without the label?

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      • cruizer
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2004
        • 8681

        #18
        The "Made in the USA" means different things to different people. No machine is entirely made in the USA, or final costs would be somewhat higher than you would expect.

        It only takes 51% of Actually made in the USA product and 49 % foreign content to be labeled "Made in the USA".

        That said, the 51% originates from other suppliers, who in turn use the 51/49% rule. So who really knows how much of the end product actually comes out of the USA.

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        • shovelon
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 1238

          #19
          Originally posted by Andrew.Pfaller View Post
          Looking at the serial number (tied to a manufacture date) it appears that your machine was made right during the transition period of the labeling. This would not be a drop in quality control, rather, it is entirely possible that the production line was utilizing the remaining labels. As a result there could have been a short period of overlap during the switch. I did check the machines coming down the line today and they do have the labeling showing it was manufactured in Appleton, WI, USA.
          Ok, now that is estabilished that I have one of those "Special" machines, did you guys relocate the country of origin label to make room for the interface card slot?
          Nothing welded, Nothing gained

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          • USMCPOP
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 349

            #20
            Originally posted by cruizer View Post
            The "Made in the USA" means different things to different people. No machine is entirely made in the USA, or final costs would be somewhat higher than you would expect.

            It only takes 51% of Actually made in the USA product and 49 % foreign content to be labeled "Made in the USA".

            That said, the 51% originates from other suppliers, who in turn use the 51/49% rule. So who really knows how much of the end product actually comes out of the USA.
            My kids were assembled in USA from foreign and domestic components. (She didn't become a citizen until a little later. )
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            • cws612
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 22

              #21
              transition labeling

              Originally posted by shovelon View Post
              Ok, now that is estabilished that I have one of those "Special" machines, did you guys relocate the country of origin label to make room for the interface card slot?
              millers r&d dept. should of made it a priority to find a prominent place for the made in usa label. after all, they are not the president, they should be proud of this country, where they prospered and developed into the tax-paying corporation they are today.

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              • shovelon
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 1238

                #22
                Originally posted by cws612 View Post
                millers r&d dept. should of made it a priority to find a prominent place for the made in usa label. after all, they are not the president, they should be proud of this country, where they prospered and developed into the tax-paying corporation they are today.
                Yes, I agree. I am proud to show that label to my customers.

                I am bit sentimental that way.

                I am hoping they can do something for me.
                Nothing welded, Nothing gained

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                • shovelon
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1238

                  #23
                  Well, I got the supporting documentation. So now to find a sticker or something.
                  Nothing welded, Nothing gained

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                  3 ea. Miller Dynasty350DX
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                  Hypertherm 800
                  PlasmaCam CNC cutter
                  Fadal Toolroom CNC Mill
                  SiberHegner CNC Mill
                  2 ea. Bridgeport
                  LeBlond 15" Lathe
                  Haberle 18" Cold Saw
                  Doringer 14" Cold Saw
                  6 foot x 12 foot Mojave granite

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                  • 1havnfun
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 276

                    #24
                    snoepro

                    GM has 2 very large plants in china and what they make in china is sold to the chinese.

                    So ya, they have the same opinion as I do.

                    Go to the gm coorporate site and you will see they have plants all over the world so they don't have to ship the cars, kinda like toyota and honda and did you check the gm plants in Canada?
                    They employ the people that is their target market. That is the RIGHT thing to do.

                    And yes that is all right for the market in all contries.
                    Now Iphone and apple computers, nice product but applle should consider putting plants in all the countries thay market in, little things like are good for the people and the companies.

                    Still my opinion
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                    • platypus20
                      Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 59

                      #25
                      the new Miller CST 280, I just bought, doesn't say "Made In USA" it says "Assembled In The USA". I guess its the wave of the future.

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                      • FusionKing
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4293

                        #26
                        My 350P has a great big, red white and blue "Made in U.S.A." sticker on both sides.
                        Actually thought about ordering some just for stuff I made

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                        • monte55
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                          • Aug 2006
                          • 1877

                          #27
                          My "made in USA" lable says printed in china
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                          • beazy125
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 9

                            #28
                            My brand new dynasty 200dx says "assembled in USA"? What's up with that? Does thermal arc just send them their Chinese parts , add some waveforms, then miller puts it together , paints it blue and charges 2X ??!

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                            • shovelon
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1238

                              #29
                              Originally posted by beazy125 View Post
                              My brand new dynasty 200dx says "assembled in USA"? What's up with that? Does thermal arc just send them their Chinese parts , add some waveforms, then miller puts it together , paints it blue and charges 2X ??!
                              Oh, SNAP!!!!
                              Nothing welded, Nothing gained

                              Miller Dynasty700DX
                              3 ea. Miller Dynasty350DX
                              Miller Dynasty200DX
                              ThermalArc 400 GTSW
                              MillerMatic350P
                              MillerMatic200 with spoolgun
                              MKCobraMig260
                              Lincoln SP-170T
                              Linde UCC305 (sold 2011)
                              Hypertherm 1250
                              Hypertherm 800
                              PlasmaCam CNC cutter
                              Fadal Toolroom CNC Mill
                              SiberHegner CNC Mill
                              2 ea. Bridgeport
                              LeBlond 15" Lathe
                              Haberle 18" Cold Saw
                              Doringer 14" Cold Saw
                              6 foot x 12 foot Mojave granite

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                              • shovelon
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1238

                                #30
                                Yes! I got me some labels now.

                                Nothing welded, Nothing gained

                                Miller Dynasty700DX
                                3 ea. Miller Dynasty350DX
                                Miller Dynasty200DX
                                ThermalArc 400 GTSW
                                MillerMatic350P
                                MillerMatic200 with spoolgun
                                MKCobraMig260
                                Lincoln SP-170T
                                Linde UCC305 (sold 2011)
                                Hypertherm 1250
                                Hypertherm 800
                                PlasmaCam CNC cutter
                                Fadal Toolroom CNC Mill
                                SiberHegner CNC Mill
                                2 ea. Bridgeport
                                LeBlond 15" Lathe
                                Haberle 18" Cold Saw
                                Doringer 14" Cold Saw
                                6 foot x 12 foot Mojave granite

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