Weldor Shortage???

[H80N]

U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms
Cities hire Chinese instead of American workers for building projects. and the justification is a U.S. weldor shortage??? ABC News


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/us-b...ylist=14594944

[cruizer]

Is'nt that funny, we in Canada have the same problem, as Syncrude and Suncor import modules from China to be assembled here.

Unfortunatly, its a worldwide economy. Projects are bid on from many countries. Over the years large scale US fabricators have all but vanished, whereas China has built theres to be the best in the world and has low payed highly skilled workers to fill them.

Simply put, its extremely tough to restart these industries to bid on large scale projects and get the manpower to fill the jobs in a cost effective manor.

So much for your "Buy American" policy....

[drpipe]

Weldor Shortage???

Hey Canuck ... I wouldn't be poking fun at our American workforce cause we are the best... I work in the oil patch and Canadian modules and equipment is regarded as the same quality as the Chinese crap .... I just had to go over about 159 socket weld in valves that were only single passed.... And I'm always getting drilling equipment and vessels that have gobs of wire that was sprayed on with a mug gun sometimes there's a root in the pipe welds ...howboutcha eh?

[H80N]

It is a sad state of affairs for both Canada and the U.S.

especially since there are plenty of skilled weldors looking for work...

your vote determines who your elected representatives are.....

I say to chose carefully and vote.... otherwise we have no right to complain

[fjk]

A couple of years ago I read the following article from 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/bu...pagewanted=all

"Just as the recession began, Chris McGrary, a manager at the Cianbro Corporation, set out to hire 80 “experienced” welders. Only now, 18 months later, is he completing the roster."

(I'll send copies if anyone wants one and has a problem getting it)

Per the article, a combination of factors, such as trades being viewed as "undesirable" career choices and a need for higher and wider skill sets seems
to be what's happening...

[H80N]

And the band played on...

Part of the point is being missed.... these projects were funded however circuitously by taxpayer monies , much of which were "stimulus" funding...intended to put Americans to work...

none of these projects were an emergency...so there was adequate time.. training programs could have been set up to train our own workforce and kept the skills and dollars at home rather than outsourcing them..

Blind dumb acceptance of the problem will make the outcome inevitable AND disastrous to our way of life.....

The same problem is playing out in the medical field over the shortage of U.S. trained doctors and nurses..... and I am afraid it will have similar disastrous results...

our education system is producing an excess of computer clerks and specialists in social conditions or ethnic studies..... but is ignoring adequate professional and skilled tradesmen.....

we are subsidizing the training of welders in china, nurses in the Philipines..and Doctors in the Caribbean and elsewhere..

very simply... we are dumbing ourselves out of the competition..

[cruizer]

Hey Canuck ... I wouldn't be poking fun at our American workforce cause we are the best... I work in the oil patch and Canadian modules and equipment is regarded as the same quality as the Chinese crap .... I just had to go over about 159 socket weld in valves that were only single passed.... And I'm always getting drilling equipment and vessels that have gobs of wire that was sprayed on with a mug gun sometimes there's a root in the pipe welds ...howboutcha eh?

All, I can say is that you indeed are a moron.

[shovelon]

Chinese quality has seem to peaked in the industries I work with. Chinese alum used to beat out Domestic. The domestic extruders reworked thier dies and match not only quality, but in most cases in price.

Plastics molding has imploded to the extent that manufactures stopped importing parts because of the horrible quality of the tooling. Quite a few mold and die shops in my area were importing molds made in Asia, then reworking them work properly at a fraction of the cost of doing it here. The mistake in that followed a few years later when the molds completely wore out. That and the cost has skyrocketed to a point when it is now cheaper and wiser to make them here again.

Some of my mold and die costomers are even designing toys to put on the market here.

Don't even get me started on Chinese steel.

[shovelon]

All, I can say is that you indeed are a moron.

Ha, Ha, you said moron.

[shovelon]

One problem with the so called "Weldor Shortage" is the unwillingness to aclimate/cultivate new hires. They just want to plug and play.

You need to invest a little in molding the applicant to the task at hand.

[cruizer]

Seems we are pushing our kids into white collar work, however without the blue collar workers, there is no white collar work.

It's a catch 22, that can only end badly.

For example, I go to the car and bike shows, used to be alot of young guys building thier own rat rods or restoring old cars. Now I don't see any young guys restoring, they are pretty much 50 and up. The days of father and son changing even your own oil is gone to the lube shops.

I have my son working for me doing small electronics and remote building, just to get his hands dirty. He's 7 now and we do have a large education fund for him to do what ever he decides. However he is learning to speak Manderin as a second language

[shovelon]

I have my son working for me doing small electronics and remote building, just to get his hands dirty. He's 7 now and we do have a large education fund for him to do what ever he decides. However he is learning to speak Manderin as a second language

Why did you start him so late in life?

[cruizer]

Actually, I've had him helping me fix my diesel truck and his dirt bike since he was 5. He's pretty good with his hands and is always asking questions. What does this do, what is that for, don't swear I'm only 7, and on and on.

[Doughboyracer]

***tips his cap***

Actually, I've had him helping me fix my diesel truck and his dirt bike since he was 5. He's pretty good with his hands and is always asking questions. What does this do, what is that for, don't swear I'm only 7, and on and on.

***tips his cap***

My son-in-law is doing the same and has with his Dad since about that age...now 24.

[BD1]

All, I can say is that you indeed are a moron.

Hey, Mr. Cruizer, we should vote on this. Unfortunately, it would overload the system. Like I said before, it's better to let people think you are stupid then
to open mouth and remove all doubt. Now, I guess they type instead.
Awesome reading about you and your son. He is very fortunate to have you for a dad. It's even better that ma lets him play with you. Good luck !