MM211 Voltage & wire speed dials?

[jessinak]

I just got this welder and i like it very much, however, i am use to dialing my own settings. I would like to be able to dial a setting without having to calculate the settings every time. is there a chart or overlay for the dials?
thanks,
Jess

[Diversion180beads]

MM211 Voltage & wire speed dials?

There should be a parameter chart on the inside of the machine on the door...

[jessinak]

The settings on the inside of the door are great, however, they correspond to the dials. They still do not indicate amps which is what I am use to. I just thought there would be a supplement I could find that would show the amp correlating to the voltage & wire speed dials. Thanks for your reply.

[Rezeppa]

Great idea and i would love one for my 211 but I think there are to many variables than just amperage and IPM so layover charts wouldnt work

[caddidaddy55]

MM211 dials

The MM211 is a CV, constant voltage machine, you set the voltage, the amperage is controlled by the wire speed. I agree though, it would be nice to have a volt setting like my CP-200 does. Figure it this way since your voltage dial goes from 1-10 and the max open circuit voltage is 30V with 120V input, figure 3 volts per #, so 5 would = 15 volts etc. On 230V input the maximum open circuit voltage is 34V so figure 3.4V per #, or 5 would = 17volts. The wire speed dial is from 10 to 100 and the feed range is 60-440 IPM when feeding wire so figure 1=60 IPM and add 42 IPM for each additional factor of 10, so 30 = 144 IPM approx. Hope this helps.

[Thrutraffic]

Miller? Y'all can't help out here?

Yeah, I'd really like to be able to know, at least close, what the dial settings are telling me in WFS and voltage. Just what is 5/40, in real terms??

I like to use the Miller settings app as a learning tool but it's useless to me with my 211. I often find using the auto set feature ends up being too hot and I get burn through. So instead of knowing how much I'm cranking things down I'm reduced to guessing as I have to take it off auto set or home that just reducing the voltage knob is the right thing to do.

Unit specs are:
- 60 - 460 IPM
- There are 9 increments of ten on the dial
- Does that equate in any way to each increment being an additional 51 IPM?

I have no idea what the voltage increments would be.

I guess marketing decided that if we really want to know that kind of stuff we'd fork over the big bucks for a digital display??

How about a chart Miller?? Surely y'all have someone in the office withnothing else to do and Excel on their workstation. :-)

[eecervantes83]

I like the idea.

I like the idea.
Is there an aftermarket digital display that would work + look good. like it belongs with the machine.

[Broccoli1]

What would it matter on this machine?

Turn it up, Turn it down

[big mike]

Come on Ed let's not confuse the issue with common sense LOL.

[dondlhmn]

Yeah....when I first got my 211, this kind of bothered me, too. But...I got over it. Now, I just give whatever scraps I have from the job at hand a quick zap or two and adjust up or down from there. Works good. Lasts a long time. Tastes great!

[eecervantes83]

The more I think about it the more it bothers me. Id like to know at what voltage I'm Welding my materials. Not just at setting 5/90 etc.
Can anyone tell me if I can add a digital voltage display. And if there's a simple plug & play I can go with.

[Thrutraffic]

What would it matter on this machine?

Turn it up, Turn it down

Come on Ed let's not confuse the issue with common sense LOL.

What the heck was I thinking wanting to learn something.

[Broccoli1]

What the heck was I thinking wanting to learn something.

Nothing wrong with wanting to learn something but what exactly will you learn by having a Volt Meter?

As an example: the chart could suggest 17v/200

Now what?

You set the machine to 17v/200 and weld... ahh crap too hot or too cold.

Walk over to the machine and turn the dials up or down.

Only thing you've learned is that you may like it it at 17.5v/200

Because of the nature of CV machine if you change the stickout from 1/4" to 3/8"
you'll change the amperage quite a bit. Your Amp meter will be going up and down.

[Thrutraffic]

Not asking for an amp meter. An amp meter displays variations in voltage in real time.

I'm interested in learning how to set a machine to a specific voltage and WFS. It would have been nice to afford one with a digital display but that's not in the cards for me. At a minimum I would like to have some close relative idea of what 5/40 or 7/60, etc. is in terms of V/WFS.

Turn it up, turn it down is what I'm doing now (in fact what I did in class too cause the old Miller 250s don't have digital either :-)). I can live with this for now.

I don't think I'm asking for that much. I don't have to have digital display. Miller could resolve this simply by offering us a conversion factor for the increments presently displayed on the dial. Even my $500 Hobart XL 135 has amperage numbers on the adjuster.

One of the downsides for Miller is that this topic sent me (and likely others) looking at other manufactuer's machines. No, I haven't found any in this category but one of the very last things Marketing wants is to have reasons for customers to be investigating competitor product lines.

[big mike]

What the heck was I thinking wanting to learn something.

I wasn't bashing anyone for trying to learn I just don't see a reason to over think numbers/letters on the controls when they don't really mean much.