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  • #31
    Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
    I put all of the bigger lights back on when I switched the SA250 out with the Vantage. So I've been back up to par since about November. I really only used them a few times this winter but, I really could of used the rope lights inside the tool boxes.

    I'll get her all fixed up before winter.

    Have you signed up in any parades yet this year? LOL
    As a matter of fact, The Silly Summer parade last Friday, but as the name implies, I just couldn't enter The Big V. But one day when I start smoking big cigars I'll sign up with Shriners and drive the rig with the go-karts.http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...ies/wink.png?2

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
      It was 4 days of research!!! And I don't see to many "real welders" unless I walk past a large mirror.
      Yeah... You need a "large mirror" for than head. The head on your shoulders that is.
      sigpic2007 dodge 3500 cummins

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      • #33
        Originally posted by sae350 View Post
        Yeah... You need a "large mirror" for than head. The head on your shoulders that is.
        Lots of good lines in a welder pi**ing match. Love it!!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by sae350 View Post
          The head on your shoulders that is.
          Well, you blocked my comeback with that one.

          From now on, if you would please raise your hand. Us Vantage 400 MEN are trying to have a conversation, we don't have time to listen to small women & children (those who still run 200's).
          Last edited by Rig Hand; 07-03-2011, 01:56 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
            Well, you blocked my comeback with that one.

            From now on, if you would please raise your hand. Us Vantage 400 MEN are trying to have a conversation, we don't have time to listen to small women & children (those who still run 200's).
            I got nuthin
            But if you would rather listen to the bigger women, then hey, its all you buddy. I'll take the small women all day long I dont need a fancy welder machine and a support group full of dudes to pull the small women. I wish I could be in your club, but i'll stick with the 200.
            sigpic2007 dodge 3500 cummins

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            • #36
              Originally posted by sae350 View Post
              But if you would rather listen to the bigger women, then hey, its all you buddy. I'll take the small women all day long I dont need a fancy welder machine and a support group full of dudes to pull the small women. I wish I could be in your club, but i'll stick with the 200.
              Support group You must have forgot how good looking I am.

              It wasn't that long ago I seen you hauling around a "bigger women". Looked like she weighed about 1,500 pounds and was only 34'' tall. Now that your down to a "smaller than most" 200 you want to knock the "big ones"

              I guess if you prefer the higher maintenance and MUCH older type, that's fine. I bet after a hard day at work you have to buy her $40 in drinks.
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              • #37
                Bigger/older DO have advantages:

                They rarely run off and have to stop to recharge their power chairs.

                They don' tell, they don't swell (well, more than they are already) and they're grateful as h3ll.

                Hang a donut on your pintle hitch and they'll follow you home.

                Get a fat tattooed one and you have shade in the summer, heat in the winter, and moving pictures all year long. They are cheaper than waterbeds and require less setup.

                They are easy to dress. A blue or red tarp with appropriate decals and they blend in with the rest of your gear.
                Last edited by 1930case; 07-04-2011, 02:51 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
                  Support group You must have forgot how good looking I am.

                  It wasn't that long ago I seen you hauling around a "bigger women". Looked like she weighed about 1,500 pounds and was only 34'' tall. Now that your down to a "smaller than most" 200 you want to knock the "big ones"

                  I guess if you prefer the higher maintenance and MUCH older type, that's fine. I bet after a hard day at work you have to buy her $40 in drinks.
                  Haha lol. I hate you. She was more like 1800 pounds and 35'' tall. With the bigger ones, you yourself needs $40 in drinks to justify keeping it around.
                  sigpic2007 dodge 3500 cummins

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                  • #39
                    Stable in strong winds! A fine quality. No teeth and pistol-grip ears would complete the package nicely.

                    I guess I'm just a romantic at heart.

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                    • #40
                      Clarification

                      Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
                      What's up fellas? Its your good looking, vantage (w/ lights) running buddy.


                      Hydrogen cracking is the reason why cellulose electrodes use has been criticized on PL work. (Well, that combined with the newer X80 and higher pipe.)

                      Most 7018 rods end in H4R. If I remember right, it means that the rod can be out of the oven for 4 hours and not pick up more than 4 ml of hydrogen. H8R would be 8 ml.
                      I think it is 4 hours at "X" relative humidity but, I have forgotten what it was. I think it was 4ml of hydrogen per so many pounds of rod as well. I'll look it up if I have time.

                      Every one have a good weekend........except you SAE 350
                      Tim
                      Rig Hand must be a NON-Union welder. The "H4" represents the maximum diffusible hydrogen level obtained on the AWS A4.3 test.

                      The AWS A4.3 Test is a Standards Method for determination of the diffusible hydrogen content of martensitic, bainitic, and ferritic steel WELD METAL produced by arc welding.

                      The "R" or "MR" meets specific low moisture pick up limits under controlled humidification tests.

                      When RigHand gets done verifying that, maybe he can explain what 8018-C3 rods are used for.

                      Gene
                      Last edited by hardhat; 07-05-2011, 06:17 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by hardhat View Post
                        Rig Hand must be a NON-Union welder. The "H4" represents the maximum diffusible hydrogen level obtained on the AWS A4.3 test.

                        The AWS A4.3 Test is a Standards Method for determination of the diffusible hydrogen content of martensitic, bainitic, and ferritic steel WELD METAL produced by arc welding.

                        The "R" or "MR" meets specific low moisture pick up limits under controlled humidification tests.

                        When RigHand gets done verifying that, maybe he can explain what 8018-C3 rods are used for.

                        Gene
                        You get a star for the day!!!

                        8018-C3 is used for cold service work. It runs pretty watery compared to 7018.
                        I forget what alloy the C is but I know it's only 1% and C1 is 3%, unlike the chrome rods where B1 is 1 1/4 and B3 is 2 1/4 (I think that's right) That's about all I remember as I haven't used it in about 3 years.

                        (former UA journeyman of local 430)
                        '08 F-350
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                        SA-250
                        SA-200
                        Invertec V350Pro
                        Invertec V205T-AC/DC

                        Miller 12VS suitcase
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sae350 View Post
                          Haha lol. I hate you. She was more like 1800 pounds and 35'' tall. With the bigger ones, you yourself needs $40 in drinks to justify keeping it around.
                          Na, I only need about $30 in drinks

                          1) because I'm a light weight

                          &

                          B) because its shinny.... so that makes me feel all warm and fussy when I walk out of the bar and she her setting there on the truck.

                          Did you get in on that jet fuel work?
                          '08 F-350
                          Vantage 400
                          SA-250
                          SA-200
                          Invertec V350Pro
                          Invertec V205T-AC/DC

                          Miller 12VS suitcase
                          Miller spectrum 2050

                          Pipe beveler's
                          Track torch

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                          • #43
                            "A Star is Born"

                            Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
                            You get a star for the day!!!

                            8018-C3 is used for cold service work. It runs pretty watery compared to 7018.
                            I forget what alloy the C is but I know it's only 1% and C1 is 3%, unlike the chrome rods where B1 is 1 1/4 and B3 is 2 1/4 (I think that's right) That's about all I remember as I haven't used it in about 3 years.

                            (former UA journeyman of local 430)
                            Thanks for the star, I'll give you 1/2 one for your answers.

                            The alpha suffix is the chemical composition of weld deposit

                            "C" represents %Nickel

                            C-1 is 2.50%
                            C-2 is 3.25%
                            C-3 is 1.00%

                            E8018-C3 are used for cold service work, and extensively used for big bore cross country transmission line repair, when originally welded with automated systems (bugs)

                            "B" represents %Chromium and %Molybdenum

                            B-1 is .50% Cr and .50% Mo
                            B-2 is 1.25% Cr and .50% Mo
                            B-3 is 2.25% Cr and 1.00% Mo

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                            • #44
                              Used that C-3 rod on a Q&T 12"sch 120 above ground steam injection line. Its liquidy alright and had to adjust the heat when capping.

                              Thanks for the great info Hardhat. Bob.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Rig Hand View Post
                                Na, I only need about $30 in drinks

                                1) because I'm a light weight

                                &

                                B) because its shinny.... so that makes me feel all warm and fussy when I walk out of the bar and she her setting there on the truck.

                                Did you get in on that jet fuel work?
                                Man I think old "hardhat" has it in for ya. And no, I didnt get on the jet fuel job.
                                sigpic2007 dodge 3500 cummins

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