Please help anyone who knows what e6010 is suppose to look like

[pwteng]

Plate clamped to bench, standing up, bent over reaching under to do overhead, open with no bevel on 1/4.

thats pretty good considering the crappy fit up i'd have trouble not burning through that one

[pwteng]

I can really tell improvement if I get a chance to weld once in a while, this is not a poster weld either but to give idea. Overhead fillet. This winter maybe I get some pics after I been welding a week somewhere. For me it makes a big difference in consistency, I can even tell improvement in a couple rods.

your hand will steady with practice and you could turn it up 5amps and it will lay a little flatter

[HAWK]

Hi there , I'm kinda new with welding as well . I'd like to know which is better , a Mig Welder or a Miller Welder ? I've seen this variety of welder on this site: http://www.bestweldersforsale.com/ ,don't know which to choose.

frajamir.

Welcome to the Miller forum!

Please make this a new post. More members will see it that way and respond to it more quickly.

Have a good day,

HAWK

[frajamir]

Hi there , I'm kinda new with welding as well . I'd like to know which is better , a Mig Welder or a Miller Welder ? I've seen this variety of welder on this site: http://www.bestweldersforsale.com/ ,don't know which to choose.

[countryboy281]

Thanks

Thanks and as far as the projects go those were my first 2 go arounds an 6010 vertical

[JTMcC]

I looked at the pictures and I "think" the original question was how close do the ripples need to be, so, your ripples are ok but you can get them tighter by turning down your heat a bit and adding a slight side to side weave. That will make it hump up better too so you end up with a nicer profile and less chance of spots being too low thuout the weld. And clear up any undercut you might have.
As (I think) several people have already said, "wagon tracks" are a (buried) defect between the bead and the hot pass on a pipe weld due to not melting out the parallel groves on the edges of the stringer, either because of not enough grinding on the bead or not enough heat (or not standing in it long enough) on the hot pass.
That's my take but I rarely if ever step 60,70,8010 rods.
J

[HAWK]

countryboy281,

A couple of the pictures are dark, but I agree acwd1950. Your welds appear to be better than your instructor's weld from what I see in these three pictures. I've been a bit abrasive in my remarks concerning your instructor, but that has nothing to do with my compliment to your work in these pictures.

Yes, I see some inconsistency and a somewhat less than straight line along the toes. So what man. Keep practicing. You are doing good. I don't much see undercutting along the toes. It appears most pronounced on your top bead in picture #1. That's a sign you are getting there. Believe me I have gouged out and repaired much worse over the years. Sometimes this type work was done by a new guy in town that undercut everybody's bids.

As I have already said. Good job. Be proud of your work and keep practicing.

Best of Luck,

HAWK

[countryboy281]

Thanks

The pictures we are referring to are in my profile under my pix mr hawk

[HAWK]

Ok i have posted 3 pix 2 outside are mine and middle is my professors please give me some feed back

What I am missing? I can't find a link to your pictures? I really would like to look at them.

HAWK

[acwd1950]

They look good to me. As for the wagon tracks they run parallel to the weld not perpendicular. The welds that you
did look better than the one the instructor did. Spacing looks pretty good. Just keep at it practice make perfect.

Steve

[countryboy281]

Posted 2 pix of my welds in my profile and the middle is my professors

Ok i have posted 3 pix 2 outside are mine and middle is my professors please give me some feed back

[countryboy281]

Ok sorry for all the confusion and for arguments sake

My professor who i am goin to let remain anymonus has been welding since he was a teen worked at bowing engineering mc donald douglas and is a certified welder advanced tig welder holds more than 5 certs in the nde feild. I think he knows what he is talking about as far as doing it over and over day in and out it looks the same every demo. Only problem is he only does about 3 inches worth on a 6 inch coupon. I believe on pipe it is very critical to keep a consistencey. Could be wrong i have made it very clear im green to this but have a passion like no other for it. He refers to wagon tracks as the spacing between your"stack of dimes" there is a spacing (the instructors at college of the canyons which is a lisc. Testign facility) believe is big i have seen some of the sudents run tight dimes i my self cant get it any closer than yours. Sorry if i sound like a **** i appericate all the advice . Here are some pix of my projects.

[HAWK]

hawk, so sorry for your medical problems, and your trouble with the ladies, are we brothers that never met, im on my third round of marriage, almost crooked this past october with heart issues, and i wont be able to mess around with the 5p today, i gotta get stuff together for mondays appt at the surgeon,s, the older we get, the more complicated life becomes, stay focused my friend, its better than the alternative

Thanks man. Brothers? Maybe. That's funny! I was married almost 21 years the first time. Paul Seaman spent a few days around the shop and learned why I stayed there 24/7! Andy W. met her once as well. That's two votes for sorry dude.

I never thought I'd be down again in my cervical and lumbar spine 10 years down the road. Yea man, I am really lucky to walk and weld again for sure! Right now it's pretty much unbearable dude. Doc thinks I've got something to look forward to over the next year. Hopefully walking and not wheeling it.

I am very sorry to hear about your heart problems. Good luck with the surgeon. PM me and I'll send you my email if you want to correspond. Maybe one day we can meet between NH and TN. and burn a few rods. You can post my welds as yours! HA! NOT!

HAWK

[HAWK]

Well, I've read every post so far, and I don't think anybody has hit the proverbial nail on the head. 6010, just like any other rod you run is supposed to look "Neat and workman like" so that you can show anybody that looks at your weld that you know what the heck you are doing!
It doesn't matter if you whip, pause, stagger or drag. Your beads should show consistent quality workmanship with minimal or no undercutting, consistent bead deposition, and be free of arc burns and other defects.

Didn't JT pretty much cover it?

I honestly believe he's been in more tight stitches and run more miles of weld on pipe than the rest of us put together. JT, I know we've had a few disagreements over uphill and downhand, but "you are the pipe man".


HAWK

[sae350]

If my old lady welded it there would just be a couple arc marks and a stuck rod. She jumps and screams every time the arc starts LOL.

What are you up to?

Thats the same thing that happens when my wife wants to weld. Except it some how turns into it being my fault she cant weld and then she hates me for the rest of the day.

Im still working as a shop rat right now. Been doin pressure vessels and process piping for a potash plant in NewMexico. Lots of stainless, mostly been doin 2'' sch80 socket welds and sock-o-lets. All the big butt welds are being orbitaled unless they cant get to them. Then we walk them out.
Other than that, im trying to get on with NPL.