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  • Pass-N-Gas
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    Originally posted by Miller John View Post
    Guys,
    Just to clarify, this has been an extremely popular unit over the last 2 years. We talk to and visit customers that use the Trailblazer Air Pak every week and this is the very first time we've had anyone say that the Air output has not impressed them. Virtually all compressor companies rate air outputs at 68 degrees F and "stretch" the ratings with low duty cycles. We rate at 104 F at 100% duty cycles and underrate the compressor at that. If you havn't seen any in the field, try all the mines, railroads and service trucks that have put them on with great feedback and results. Even the workers with farm and construction applications have good success stories from running impacts to deck punching tools. Remember, sometimes when using the Air Pak to "blow stuff off", free air flow often exceeds 26CFM which does reduce operating pressure.

    We at Miller realize that this forum is for our valuable customers and partners in the welding industry, but the TB Air Pak has been so good and well recieved, I wanted to contribute to this conversation to help educate those who may want my 2 cents.

    Thanks as always for being so passionate and open with sharing your thoughts and comments.
    Are these units fuel injected yet?

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  • white05gt
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    I just wish it was a diesel.

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  • Jim S
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    I have owned my AirPak for over a year now and have never regretted the purchase. Was it a lot of money? Absolutly. Is it overpriced as a lot of non owners have complained? That's a decision each person has to justify in their own mind. For me, paid the bill and never looked back.

    My work is in heavy industrial manufacturing and construction. We may be doing structural steel one day, stainless or carbon steel piping the next, then throw in some manufacturing equipment repairs any time or day of the week. The ability to free up bed space, fuel and service one unit only, and have a dependable air supply was a no brainer for me. And only have to put up with the noise and associated vibrations from one unit running instead of 2 is a plus also.

    Thanks Miller for making a mini version of a machine I owned years ago, the Big Blue Air Pak. Now that is a monster of a machine.

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  • Bob Miller
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    The Test Is Over.

    I finally went to the place where I use to work in the winter (off season for me). They had 2 different air compressors, the kind you would see on a service truck.
    There was also one like I carried on my PU, but it would not start, so I could not compare it. I don't think it would have been much different.
    I used my test nozzle on both compressors, neither one of the 2 put out as much air as the 302 Air Pak.

    Now I'm pleased with the Trailblazer 302 Air Pak, it puts out more air than my old compressor (that is all I really wanted), plus 13000 watts of power, plus 12/24 volt battery charger, and is the best welder made. I've welded a total of 4" with it so far. The neighbor kid used the welder for 3 hrs., I told him it sure did a nice job of welding, he told me it's the weldor not the welder (Kids).

    I want to thank everybody for their help and input. I appreciate it very much.

    Good Luck,
    Bob

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  • Miller John
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    Guys,
    Just to clarify, this has been an extremely popular unit over the last 2 years. We talk to and visit customers that use the Trailblazer Air Pak every week and this is the very first time we've had anyone say that the Air output has not impressed them. Virtually all compressor companies rate air outputs at 68 degrees F and "stretch" the ratings with low duty cycles. We rate at 104 F at 100% duty cycles and underrate the compressor at that. If you havn't seen any in the field, try all the mines, railroads and service trucks that have put them on with great feedback and results. Even the workers with farm and construction applications have good success stories from running impacts to deck punching tools. Remember, sometimes when using the Air Pak to "blow stuff off", free air flow often exceeds 26CFM which does reduce operating pressure.

    We at Miller realize that this forum is for our valuable customers and partners in the welding industry, but the TB Air Pak has been so good and well recieved, I wanted to contribute to this conversation to help educate those who may want my 2 cents.

    Thanks as always for being so passionate and open with sharing your thoughts and comments.

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  • Bob Miller
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    still need help

    I still would like to find out what other people are getting.

    Amflo 226 air nozzle and pressure gauge, for your use. I have 3 left.

    I would like at least one machine without the air cooler/separator. That would be 907447, 907447002,and 907447003. Mine is the 907447004.

    Good Luck,
    Bob

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  • Bob Miller
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    53 cfm

    I just found a website that said a 3/16" orfice will pass 53 cfm at 90/100 psi.
    This might be part of the reason I'm not get the pressure I think I should.
    hobbynut said a 1/8" will pass 23 cfm at 100 psi. I think I'll try that size and see what happens.
    Good Luck,
    Bob

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  • Bob Miller
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    Originally posted by cruizer View Post
    Not a big seller for Miller, I mean for $10K, a guy comes pretty close to buying a good diesel, and extra change to pickup a stand alone compressor which most guys don't need anyways. So only a select crowd would look into buying this unit.

    I can see it being discontinued in short order.
    I bought mine in Feb., and it has a MA prefix.
    Good luck,
    Bob

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  • Bob Miller
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    Cruizer, Case IH, You guys are both right. I thought I was up grading. As a farmer
    I use more air than weld in the field. Since 1970 I have always carried an air compressor in my PU. The welders came later. I had a Roughneck that was moved from one PU to another, but mostly my foreman carried it. Then I got an under hood welder SST 130. It was never enough welder. Then while moon lighting, in the off season, for the rail road I got the Miller Legend. I needed power for a hydraulic hose machine.
    Then while baling hay, my PU was stolen. No more welder , air compressor, Snap-On tools, grinders, drills, all gone. CHP found my PU striped. So I rebuilt it Champion 12.5 hp compressor, Trailblazer 302, some Snap-on tools, but mostly cheap stuff.
    Long story short.
    Old PU quit. I got a new to me 1 ton and thought I would upgrade the air compressor. Having way more bed area, I figured I could go the extra length of the Air Pak. So that is why I got it.
    Since I saw my first Big Blue Air Pak, I always thought it would be nice to have a smaller one for a PU. When this 302 Air Pak came out, I too said you could have 3 compressor for the extra money of the Air Pak.

    Don't get me wrong I Never said the machine is BAD.

    I just might be expecting more than the machine has.
    That's why I need something to compare it to. Is it my machine or all machines?
    Good Luck,
    Bob
    Last edited by Bob Miller; 04-21-2011, 07:09 PM. Reason: spelling and stuff

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  • CaseIH
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    $4200 for TB 302
    $1700 for 12VS feeder
    $2000 for IR 30 gal compressor
    $1500 for Powermaxx 45
    $700 for 200' 2/0 cable
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    $10,100

    -or-

    $10,500 for TB 302 AP w/ water seperator.

    There's a reason there aren't many out there, especially if the compressor performs as bad as you reported.

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  • cruizer
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    Not a big seller for Miller, I mean for $10K, a guy comes pretty close to buying a good diesel, and extra change to pickup a stand alone compressor which most guys don't need anyways. So only a select crowd would look into buying this unit.

    I can see it being discontinued in short order.

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  • Bob Miller
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    3 more people

    I still need 3 more Trailblazer 302 Air Pak owners to PM me.
    Good Luck,
    Bob

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  • Bob Miller
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    Bump, see post #6
    Thanks,
    Bob

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  • Bob Miller
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    Still need help

    I need 3 more Trailblazer 302 Air Pak owners to help me finish this test.
    Good Luck,
    Bob

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  • Bob Miller
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    3

    Thanks Jim

    Now I just need 3 more people to help with my test.

    Good Luck,
    Bob

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