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    I am kind of new welding aluminum with our mig at work we have a Hobart Handler 175 we got 30cm aluminum wire and using argon gas. My problem we are having is the mig keeps jamming the wire at the feed gear. I hear talk about a push pull gun do we need this type of gun to get the wire to stop jamming. Or what are we doing wrong with the settings. thanks.

  • #2
    hmm

    you need a spool gun trying to push aluminum through a regular gun and cable is like trying to push a wet noodle up a hill

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    • #3
      ok thanks! i kind of thought we would need another type of gun.

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      • #4
        I believe some guns have teflon liners available for feeding alum. Call your LWS for availability.

        5356 feed better than 4043 if that matters.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jimbo64 View Post
          ok thanks! i kind of thought we would need another type of gun.
          Some guns don't take the heat well from a mixed gas so be carefull how long you run it...Bob
          Last edited by aametalmaster; 03-23-2011, 08:51 AM.
          Bob Wright

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          • #6
            thanks guys went to the Hobart site and the gun and controler I need are availible for the welder. It needs a 3035 spool gun and a GMA100 controler. Now all I have to do is get our boss to get it for us!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jimbo64 View Post
              thanks guys went to the Hobart site and the gun and controler I need are availible for the welder. It needs a 3035 spool gun and a GMA100 controler. Now all I have to do is get our boss to get it for us!
              Good deal thats the best way...Bob
              Bob Wright

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              • #8
                hmm

                the best way is a push pull pulse setup first show him the cost of a miller 350p aluma pro and tell him this is the best for the job then show him the 3035 and controller and say but we can get it done with this

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                • #9
                  What are you trying to weld? something complex or simple? how thick?...Bob
                  Bob Wright

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jimbo64 View Post
                    thanks guys went to the Hobart site and the gun and controler I need are availible for the welder. It needs a 3035 spool gun and a GMA100 controler. Now all I have to do is get our boss to get it for us!
                    Expensive route and you still only have a 175 amp machine

                    3035-20 spoolgun - $479.00
                    SGA-100 controller - $239.00

                    $718.00 to run a spool gun that way

                    B&R welder has a Spoolgun adapter kit $359.00
                    http://brwelder.com/indextemplate.cf...ubCategory=269

                    or...Hobart Handler 210 WITH spool gun @ Northern $949.00

                    http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...2663_200392663
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
                      Expensive route and you still only have a 175 amp machine
                      Thats for sure...Bob
                      Bob Wright

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                      • #12
                        If you're stuck using the same set-up until your new gear arrives try running 5356 wire & ream out your contact tip with a tip cleaner, might help you get by.
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                        • #13
                          If you do use your welder and whatever feeder i would stick with .030 sized wire. It tends to work better on smaller machines...Bob
                          Bob Wright

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Broccoli1 View Post
                            Expensive route and you still only have a 175 amp machine

                            3035-20 spoolgun - $479.00
                            SGA-100 controller - $239.00

                            $718.00 to run a spool gun that way

                            B&R welder has a Spoolgun adapter kit $359.00
                            http://brwelder.com/indextemplate.cf...ubCategory=269

                            or...Hobart Handler 210 WITH spool gun @ Northern $949.00

                            http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...2663_200392663
                            yup if it was me i would go the 210 route more juice and a gun plus youll have an extra machine

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                            • #15
                              we use it to repair handcarts and repair the shelves in the trucks they are all aluminum. at the most maybe 1/8 inch thick.

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