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    Hello Guys,

    I have been reading for the past week so I would decide which machine I am going for. I own a 180amp mig welding machine, but I would like to upgrade to a tig welding machine. This is going to be my first tig welding experience.

    The work that the machine is going to see is manly fabrication of car related parts like stainless steel exhaust systems, aluminum intake/intercooler piping , welding bungs on aluminum intake manifolds and on top covers. When I get enough experience I would also like to start welding chromolly roll cages.

    The problem I am stuck with is either I buy a New Diversion 180 or a used Dynasty 300DX which I found at a price not too far away from the 180... The 300DX is a complete refurbished unit with the matching Miller cooler and new tig torch and new pedal. ( does anyone remember how much this system was new?)

    I know that the diversion is much easier to learn on and the dynasty has million settings , so which one do you recommend for a beginner guy like me ?

    And the other concern that I have is that the Dynasty is used , should I stick with a new machine or fork out a bit more and get the better used machine?

    I am leaning for the Dynasty because I know that it is a much more capable machine but I am scared of all those buttons

    Hope you guys can help me decide so I can get my machine soon

    Manny Thanks.

    Best Regards,
    Marlon.
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  • #2
    Do not worry about all the buttons. If you get the dynasty. Keep it simple at first.
    Turn most of the options off and run it as a basic machine. Once you have learned how to tig and control the puddle , it is now time to start playing with all the extras. Open the owners manual and make small changes. Panel controls and the hidden menu. Don't let the extras turn you into a lazy welder at first.
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    • #3
      The diversion won't cover everything you want to do. Both machines should be just as easy to learn on, but just don't mess with the advanced features while learning. The 300dx was something like a $6000 or more machine when new.

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      • #4
        Well, I will probably be the only one to suggest going for the Diversion.

        The reasons are.

        1.Very easy to learn, thus recouping investment sooner.
        2. New machine has a warranty( 3 years I believe).
        3. Ability to run on house current.
        4. You have no experience with Tig.
        5. Gives a chance for your LWS to quote a new machine you.

        Now Dynasties are great machines, I know, I own 5 of them. I am still learning, but I wish they were as simple as the Diversion.

        P.S. My Dynasty 200 is at home. At work, I use the Thermal Arc 400(simple). I make the crew use the Dynasties.
        Last edited by shovelon; 12-08-2010, 02:48 PM. Reason: clarity
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        • #5
          Can't agree on the above point for the diversion.
          Makes no difference what machine you learn on. No one reads the manual anyway.

          And lack of tig experience will not be helped by a basic machine. you still have to learn to not dip the tungsten and keep you arc tight.

          As said a few posts up get the manual set the machine as a basic tig and learn on that. If you don't want the Dynasty Tell me where it is and I'll buy it. You'll never regret having that big of a machine in term of amps available
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          • #6
            TIG welding, sometimes referred to Gas Tungsten Arc Welding (GTAW) is the process of using electric arc with a TIG electrode made of tungsten which do not dissolve or burn off when welding. When TIG welding you are simply melting metall together without using a filler metal as you do with MIG welding.

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            • #7
              [QUOTE= you are simply melting metall together without using a filler metal as you do with MIG welding.[/QUOTE]


              Humm.............can't say I agree with that..as I have & use many different filler materials for carbon, cro-mo, alum & stainless materials.

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                Originally posted by marlon88 View Post
                Hello Guys,

                I have been reading for the past week so I would decide which machine I am going for. I own a 180amp mig welding machine, but I would like to upgrade to a tig welding machine. This is going to be my first tig welding experience.

                The work that the machine is going to see is manly fabrication of car related parts like stainless steel exhaust systems, aluminum intake/intercooler piping , welding bungs on aluminum intake manifolds and on top covers. When I get enough experience I would also like to start welding chromolly roll cages.

                The problem I am stuck with is either I buy a New Diversion 180 or a used Dynasty 300DX which I found at a price not too far away from the 180... The 300DX is a complete refurbished unit with the matching Miller cooler and new tig torch and new pedal. ( does anyone remember how much this system was new?)

                I know that the diversion is much easier to learn on and the dynasty has million settings , so which one do you recommend for a beginner guy like me ?

                And the other concern that I have is that the Dynasty is used , should I stick with a new machine or fork out a bit more and get the better used machine?

                I am leaning for the Dynasty because I know that it is a much more capable machine but I am scared of all those buttons

                Hope you guys can help me decide so I can get my machine soon

                Manny Thanks.

                Best Regards,
                Marlon.
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