Help !! Lp conversion bobcat 250

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23 HP KOHLER
MODEL CH23S
674 cc ENGINE
MANU. DATE 7-11-06

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE A KIT FOR THIS UNIT ? IT IS CURRENTLY A GASOLINE ENGINE AND AM NEEDING A LP CONVERSION KIT REALLY FAST ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !

DOC

[davedarragh]

23 HP KOHLER
MODEL CH23S
674 cc ENGINE
MANU. DATE 7-11-06

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN PURCHASE A KIT FOR THIS UNIT ? IT IS CURRENTLY A GASOLINE ENGINE AND AM NEEDING A LP CONVERSION KIT REALLY FAST ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED !

DOC

Have you contacted Miller's Engine Drive Department, and ask if one is available?

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doin that now

[Desertrider33]

Miller made an LP version of your gas Bobcat. I'm sure they could sell you all the parts to convert your machine, however, it may be alot more expensive to convert it than to just trade in your gas Bobcat for an LP one, or sell it outright and buy one outright.

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this welder is a steal of a deal if i can find a kit new or used.....heres the reply i received earlier from miller.....




Doc,

Thank you for your inquiry.

Miller Electric does not offer a conversion kit for your machine. I recommend contacting the engine manufacturer for more information.

Thank you,

Brian Schmidt
Customer Service
Miller Electric Mfg Co.
920-735-4384

[JSFAB]

Just for your information, I own a Lincoln 250, LPG power. It has the next size up engine, plus the vaporizer, propane regulator, and propane carborator.

I suspect, to get an equivalent output LPG engine, takes more than just a conversion kit.

[crabber]

Less BTU

LPG has less BTU's than gasoline, which produces less output as JS pointed out. I believe it produces about 15% less heat (energy) than gas. If you Google search "LPG conversion kit" with whatever engine type you have, many kits are available.

Let us know what you find!

Good luck!

~Ian

[HotRodTodd]

Actually propane has more BTU's per pound and is around 104 to 107 octane.
Its natural gas that has less BTU's than gasoline.

C&P from propane gas assn:
Propane
1 pound = 21,500 BTU <-------
4.24 lbs = 1 gallon
Natural Gas 1 cubic foot = 1,050 BTU
36.39 cubic feet = 1 gallon
Gasoline
1 pound = 19,000 BTU <-------
1 gallon = 6.1 lbs

We have ordered some kits from these guys in the past, and they were bolt up complete, and not to bad on pricing.
Your mileage may vary, LOL!
http://www.propanecarbs.com/small_engines.html

[weldersales]

Bobcat

Another suggestion - send us the machine and we will send you a propane model same day. weldersales

[crabber]

Actually propane has more BTU's per pound and is around 104 to 107 octane.
Its natural gas that has less BTU's than gasoline.

C&P from propane gas assn:
Propane
1 pound = 21,500 BTU <-------
4.24 lbs = 1 gallon
Natural Gas 1 cubic foot = 1,050 BTU
36.39 cubic feet = 1 gallon
Gasoline
1 pound = 19,000 BTU <-------
1 gallon = 6.1 lbs

We have ordered some kits from these guys in the past, and they were bolt up complete, and not to bad on pricing.
Your mileage may vary, LOL!
http://www.propanecarbs.com/small_engines.html

Fuel GGE BTU/unit
Gasoline (base)[2] 1 US gallon 114,000 BTU/gal
Gasoline (conventional, summer)[2] 0.996 US gallon * 114,500 BTU/gal
Gasoline (conventional, winter)[2] 1.013 US gallon * 112,500 BTU/gal
Gasoline (reformulated gasoline, ethanol)[2] 1.019 US gallon * 111,836 BTU/gal
Gasoline (reformulated gasoline, ETBE)[2] 1.019 US gallon * 111,811 BTU/gal
Gasoline (reformulated gasoline, MTBE)[2] 1.020 US gallon * 111,745 BTU/gal
Gasoline (10% MBTE)[3] 1.02 US gallon 112,000 BTU/gallon
Gasoline (regular unleaded)[4] 1 US gallon 114,100 BTU/gal
Diesel #2[4] 0.88 US gallons 129,500 BTU/gal
Biodiesel (B100)[4] 0.96 US gallons 118,300 BTU/gal
Bio Diesel (B20)[4] 0.90 US gallons 127,250 BTU/gal
Liquid natural gas (LNG)[4] 1.52 US gallons 75,000 BTU/gal
Compressed natural gas (CNG)[4] 126.67 cu ft (3.587 m3) 900 BTU/cu ft
Hydrogen at 101.325 kPa 357.37 cu ft 319 BTU/cu ft[5]
Hydrogen by weight 0.997 kg (2.198 lb)[6] 119.9 MJ/kg (51,500 BTU/lb)[7]
Liquefied petroleum gas (LPG)[4] 1.35 US gallons 84,300 BTU/gal
Methanol fuel (M100)[4] 2.01 US gallons 56,800 BTU/gal
Ethanol fuel (E100)[4] 1.500 US gallons 76,100 BTU/gal
Ethanol (E85)[4] 1.39 US gallons 81,800 BTU/gal
Jet fuel (naphtha)[8] 0.97 US gallons 118,700 BTU/gal
Jet fuel (kerosene)[8] 0.90 US gallons 128,100 BTU/gal
Electricity 33.40 kilowatt-hours * 3,413 BTU/(kW·h) [9][10]
*calculated based on 114,000 BTU/gal base gasoline

[crabber]

http://www.propane-generators.com/order_page.htm

I talked to these guys awhile back about a conversion for my Hobart. I think it was around $250.00. for the Kohler CH 23.

~Ian

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Crabber thats a great link thanx !!! Gonna callthem tomorrow !!!