Seeing Red

[Broccoli1]

... well I was about to buy a MM212, figgering I could use my Spoolmate 100 if I needed to but Noooo it don't work wid da MM212

Makes me wanna go buy a Red machine

ahh not really Mad but was hoping it would work out that I could use the Spoolmate 100

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Mo' juice?

What up? You looking for a little more kick than the Passport?

Oh, I get it now. Wifey uses the Passport so you need two machines. Just dawned on me.

[Broccoli1]

What up? You looking for a little more kick than the Passport?

Oh, I get it now. Wifey uses the Passport so you need two machines. Just dawned on me.

Yup- more projects here at the Studio so don't want to bother with bringing the Passport back and forth.

[wb4rt]

Ed,
Unless you need the bigger duty cycle, look at the MM211. It will use your Spoolmate 100 right out of the box. The dual voltage is a great feature too, if you use at home and studio.
Just a thought. Figured you knew it, but thought I would say "Hi". I've enjoyed your many posts over the last few years.

[Broccoli1]

I want the 15' whip-




I had to jump around dis 'ting and the short whip on the Passport was just a wee bit of a pain. It is 10' long. I'll post up complete pics when I get er' painted.

The Passport covers the Dual Voltage- and really plenty of power.

[kcstott]

Or you could pony up to a 252
Probably over kill for what you need but if you can afford it???? Tax right off.....

[FusionKing]

I say go with the 350P

[Desertrider33]

Ed, I put a 15' Bernard Q300 on my Passport and it's been great for moving around the job without moving the machine around for each weld too. I put another 15' QGun on my MM175 too. Much better than the 10' M10 gun the machines come with.

I think the MM212 uses the Spoolmate 3xxx series? The MM140/180/211/PassportPlus all use the Spoolmate 100.

[davedarragh]

I think the MM212 uses the Spoolmate 3xxx series? The MM140/180/211/PassportPlus all use the Spoolmate 100.

The newer AutoSet MM 212 takes the "200" Spoolmate.

The older, non AutoSet 212 (like mine) accepts the 3035 Spoolgun.

I can leave the 3035 hooked up, all the time, as it has 2 gas and gun ports, and a "barbed" hose fitting under the machine lid.

The 3035 accepts the same consumables as the 200 Spoolmate (tips, nozzles, drive rolls), so that's a good thing.

The biggest difference is, the 200 sets the WFS at the gun, and the 3035 is set at the machine. Duty cycles are comparable.

One can use the 200 on the older 212's, but an adapter cable is needed, wich is an extra $60ish, so I opted for the 3035. Cyberweld still carries them.

As you know, the MIG gun must be removed from the machine, when using the Spoolmate 100, and the gas hose must be changed going into the machine's solenoid.

The 3035 is a pretty slick set up, as the "gun on demand" feature, allows the user to keep everything hooked up. Just don't squeeze both triggers at the same time!

[Desertrider33]

Hmm, so if the newer 212 Auto Set accepts the Spoolmate 200, does it also accept the Spoolmatic 15/30?

[Broccoli1]

Ed,
Unless you need the bigger duty cycle, look at the MM211. It will use your Spoolmate 100 right out of the box. The dual voltage is a great feature too, if you use at home and studio.
Just a thought. Figured you knew it, but thought I would say "Hi". I've enjoyed your many posts over the last few years.

U nudder thing is I have 120/208v 3-phase at the Studio and the MM212 indicates 208/230v but the MM211 only shows 230v.

Desert,

I've seen your posts about the 15' Bernard whip- Miller advised me against but yours works so..

I still need a 2nd machine to just keep at my work.

Might as well get one with wheels so I don't have to make a cart

[kcstott]

Every body gets the voltage thing mixed up.

Most machines are fine running on 208, 220, 230, 240. so long as the phase is correct. Single phase and three phase. And before someone reads me the riot act yes there is single phase 208 in some areas. And I don't mean 120/208 single/three phase I mean 208 single phase

Typically you will see a call out for max voltage deviation to be about 10%

So a 220 volt machine will run on 200 or 240 i.e. +-10%

just the same as 440, 460, 480 is all just about the same but being typically three phase.

So if you have a machine that calls out 230 single phase it will run on 208 single phase

[Broccoli1]

dunno- one of the Miller dudes on here said 208 wasn't good for the MM211

here is the thread
http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...ad.php?t=20944

but re-reading it, Miller Kevin didn't say it wouldn't run- just not a Voltage Option.

[Bert]

Oh, I get it now. Wifey uses the Passport so you need two machines. Just dawned on me.

he he he.....he he he.........
Actually, I'm SHOCKED fusionking didn't say you need the Dynasty 700!!!!!

that's a nice looking rack. What's it gonna carry? Part rack??
Cool to see when painted

[Broccoli1]

Solved the Dilemma

1- MM252
1-MM211