3035 spoolgun hookup

[shade tree welder]

I purchased a 3035 spoolgun this week to do an aluminum repair project that was to much for my 180 tig ,(and direct hookup to my 210)the material was too thick and would put the 180 over its duty cycle with constant welding.
I checked the hookup chart on the miller weld site and they show that this spoolgun will not work on my trailblazer 302, even with some type of adapter kit,but some of the other model spoolguns will, WHY?

[con_fuse9]

I'm not sure about the trailerblazer per se, but you need to look at the "SGA 100C" The 'C' is important because its the contactor version that you need with live power supplies like a typical generator.

It looks like the 100C will do everything for you except supply the voltage. You should have a switch setting for remote wire feeder - you will not have remote sense wire feeding.

[Railmen]

I purchased a 3035 spoolgun this week to do an aluminum repair project that was to much for my 180 tig ,(and direct hookup to my 210)the material was too thick and would put the 180 over its duty cycle with constant welding.
I checked the hookup chart on the miller weld site and they show that this spoolgun will not work on my trailblazer 302, even with some type of adapter kit,but some of the other model spoolguns will, WHY?

Yes the the 3035 will work just fine on the TB302, the problem is that the TB has SO much power that the spoolgun will be burned up in no time.......If you know how to keep the volts/amps down the 3035 will work just fine.

The SGA100"C" is for power sources that don't have built in contactors, the TB does you just need to make a cheater cord up to run it of the TB, that is if you buy the SGA100 with out the "C" that is what I have, now i have put the heavy duty barrel on my with makes it a 200AMP 60% duty cycle spool gun.

if you want see some pictures of how i did it just ask and i can post them up.

Railmen

[shade tree welder]

3035 spoolgun

Yes Railman I would like to see how you did it. Pictures are worth a 1000 words!

[Railmen]

Yes Railman I would like to see how you did it. Pictures are worth a 1000 words!

Ok on the front of the SGA100 there is a spot for trigger control out put instead on running wires of the front like any normal white man would do, naw i had to be different............

took the cover off and piggy backed the wires and put a quick plug on the back.

then just soldered the wires in the plug to what ever pins I needed to a Miller 14 pin to pins "A" and "B".

the first picture shows the cord and plug in the back of the SGA100.

The second picture show the cord.

The Third picture shows the output spot on the bottom of the SGA100 that is where i "jumped" from inside to the plug i put in the back.

Any more Questions just ask

and if any one is interested the last picture is what is for sale, everything in the picture goes as a lot.

Its a 3035 with the HD barrel SGA100 and spare parts.

Railmen

[Diverdude]

Does the 3035 have the two stage trigger for gas then arc similar to the 30A, or is it just on off like the spoolmate 100? Looking for an upgrade from the 100 for my 211. From the diagrams all it needs to hook up is a different machine connection. Just in the process of research right now.

[Railmen]

Does the 3035 have the two stage trigger for gas then arc similar to the 30A, or is it just on off like the spoolmate 100? Looking for an upgrade from the 100 for my 211. From the diagrams all it needs to hook up is a different machine connection. Just in the process of research right now.

No the gas Valve is in the control box, so I guess 1 stage trigger..

Railmen

[Diverdude]

Thats good, from what I have found, install the correct connector and change the pin configuration in the plug and it should work on my 211 when the SM100 dies. Thanks.

[davedarragh]

3035 Spool Gun

Thats good, from what I have found, install the correct connector and change the pin configuration in the plug and it should work on my 211 when the SM100 dies. Thanks.

I think Miller is phasing out this model, and replacing it with the "200." The 3035 is a direct connect for the older 212 (non auto/set), as the 212 has 2 seperate gas solenoids, and 2 seperate gun ports. A "barbed" fitting is under the lid for the gas hose. It's pretty much "plug and play."

Might want to check with Cruizer as to the compatability with the 211.

The "200" has the WFS control on the gun, where as the 3035 uses the machine's WFS control.

I'm sure it could be done, just not sure how feasible.

Dave

[Diverdude]

As similar as the 100 and the 3035 are I wonder if the parts of the 3035 could be used to up grade the internals of the 100 to handle more power. I haven't understood why Miller paired a 135 amp gun with a 210 amp machine?

[con_fuse9]

As similar as the 100 and the 3035 are I wonder if the parts of the 3035 could be used to up grade the internals of the 100 to handle more power. I haven't understood why Miller paired a 135 amp gun with a 210 amp machine?

The 135 Amp rating is at 30% duty cycle (24V) so that's a fair comparison. Curiously, the 15/30As are rated at 200Amps 100% (with argon shielding gas)

[Diverdude]

The 135 Amp rating is at 30% duty cycle (24V) so that's a fair comparison. Curiously, the 15/30As are rated at 200Amps 100% (with argon shielding gas)

That is a perfect match with the MM180 in amps and duty cycle, but the 211 is rated at 165 amps at 30% duty cycle and you usually get a spoolgun to weld aluminum which takes more heat for the same size material as steel on average. So in the case of a Sm100 on a MM211 the spoolgun is limiting the capability of the welder, were the 3035 is 150 amp at 60% duty cycle the gun would not be the limiting factor, and you could use the capability of the machine.

[FusionKing]

I think all these different spoolguns are gonna be a real confusing mess in a few years when there are no more parts. Miller needs to become more consistent and design a smaller but bulletproof spoolgun for the lighter duty and less expensive machines, and then make whatever it takes to get some decent interchangability.
It just seems like between Miller and Hobart there are simply too many versions IMO.
The LWS people are gonna be so confused!!!