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  • Weld Aid Lube-Matic Lube Pads?

    anyone ever use one of these?http://http://store.cyberweld.com/weaidlulupa.html


    i have heard of them, never seen them til now.
    Any good?
    Flash me, Im a Welder

  • #2
    I put one on my Passport when I was using on the school building job, which was a whole lotta welding every day. It does lube the wire, but it also sends alot of black crap down the liner. The wire feeds fine with or without the lube pad but the liner clogs up sooner with it. I don't have it on any of my other migs and they all feed the wire fine. Conclusion is I don't see much benefit to it, it works fine but makes a mess. I'd rather not have the mess.
    Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
    Millermatic175
    MillermaticPassport/Q300
    HTP MIG200
    PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
    ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
    DialarcHF, Radiator-1
    Hypertherm PowerMax 380
    Purox oxy/ace
    Jackson EQC
    -F350 CrewCab 4x4
    -LoadNGo utility bed
    -Bobcat 250NT
    -PassportPlus/Q300
    -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
    -Suitcase8RC/Q400
    -Suitcase12RC/Q300
    -Smith oxy/propane
    -Jackson EQC

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    • #3
      I've used them for years, Zero Problems !

      ........... Norm
      www.normsmobilewelding.blogspot.com

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      • #4
        I have used them for 30 some years on 25 different migs with no problems. It does get that black stripe from the wire dragging thru it and i just turn the pad to a fresh spot every spool of wire change...Bob
        Bob Wright

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        • #5
          I use them also, great product!!
          Two Dynasty 350's with Wireless pedals
          Victor O/A
          Profax 250 weld positioner
          Bridgeport mill
          Logan Turret lathe
          RMD tubing bender
          Enco vertical saw
          Baileigh Auto cold saw
          IR 80 Gal dual stage compressor
          Misc Fab equipment

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          • #6
            I use no pads, whether lubed or dry. In fact, Lincoln Electric, specifically recommends not doing so.

            If your wire is dragging, you probably have other problems, better to fix the real problem than add gunk to your weld.
            Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
              I have used them for 30 some years on 25 different migs with no problems. It does get that black stripe from the wire dragging thru it and i just turn the pad to a fresh spot every spool of wire change...Bob
              That "black stripe" you speak of, is nothing other than your "wipe" removing the original manufacturer's lube from the wire.
              Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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              • #8
                If the pads are dry no real problem, if they are oiled, then there is a problem as the fibers off the pads clog up the liner. The idea is to keep the liners as dry as possible not wet with oil. Punchering an earplug is more cheap and effective than the pads. In other words during a service call, I see the pads, I toss them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                  If the pads are dry no real problem, if they are oiled, then there is a problem as the fibers off the pads clog up the liner. The idea is to keep the liners as dry as possible not wet with oil. Punchering an earplug is more cheap and effective than the pads. In other words during a service call, I see the pads, I toss them.
                  That is exactly what happens. Put the lube oil on the pad and it coats the wire with a hairy black mess, which goes down the liner. I haven't tried an ear plug yet, sounds like a better material to use than the fibrous pad material that sheds hairs so easily.
                  Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                  Millermatic175
                  MillermaticPassport/Q300
                  HTP MIG200
                  PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                  ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                  DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                  Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                  Purox oxy/ace
                  Jackson EQC
                  -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                  -LoadNGo utility bed
                  -Bobcat 250NT
                  -PassportPlus/Q300
                  -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                  -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                  -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                  -Smith oxy/propane
                  -Jackson EQC

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                  • #10
                    How about trying, use Nothing, like Lincoln recommends????
                    Obviously, I'm just a hack-artist, you shouldn't be listening to anything I say .....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JSFAB View Post
                      That "black stripe" you speak of, is nothing other than your "wipe" removing the original manufacturer's lube from the wire.

                      Actually the wire is filthy. I rewind wire to small rolls with my lathe and the wire is filthy inside. I see every inch of it while winding...Bob
                      Bob Wright

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JSFAB View Post
                        How about trying, use Nothing, like Lincoln recommends????
                        Hello, HELLO! Is this thing on?
                        Caution!
                        These are "my" views based only on “my” experiences in “my” little bitty world.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JSFAB View Post
                          How about trying, use Nothing, like Lincoln recommends????
                          Because i have a Miller I have seen shops that don't use wipes and the liners are always dirty and are having feed problems. But thats just my .02. I will keep using them...Bob
                          Bob Wright

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JSFAB View Post
                            How about trying, use Nothing, like Lincoln recommends????
                            I agree. I dont use it on any of my other machines besides the Passport and the only reason it's still on the Passport is I haven't changed out the liner since it's still working fine. When time comes to put a new liner in it, the lube system will get tossed. It worked fine before without the luber.
                            Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                            Millermatic175
                            MillermaticPassport/Q300
                            HTP MIG200
                            PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                            ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                            DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                            Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                            Purox oxy/ace
                            Jackson EQC
                            -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                            -LoadNGo utility bed
                            -Bobcat 250NT
                            -PassportPlus/Q300
                            -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                            -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                            -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                            -Smith oxy/propane
                            -Jackson EQC

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by aametalmaster View Post
                              Because i have a Miller I have seen shops that don't use wipes and the liners are always dirty and are having feed problems. But thats just my .02. I will keep using them...Bob
                              I can see the benefit of using a dry wiper on a shop feeder that leaves the roll of wire exposed to dust and grinding particles, as many bench-top feeders don't have a cover over the wire roll. All my migs have covers over the wire so I don't normally have dirty wire, unless I've been grinding nearby a machine that I left the wire door open.
                              Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                              Millermatic175
                              MillermaticPassport/Q300
                              HTP MIG200
                              PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                              ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                              DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                              Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                              Purox oxy/ace
                              Jackson EQC
                              -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                              -LoadNGo utility bed
                              -Bobcat 250NT
                              -PassportPlus/Q300
                              -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                              -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                              -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                              -Smith oxy/propane
                              -Jackson EQC

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