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  • Bernard Q300 Centerfire...Nice gun!

    After seeing some comments here and elsewhere on the Bernard Mig guns, I decided to change out my M-25 gun on my MM251 for a Bernard Q300 Centerfire.

    It arrived today and was easy to install.
    I ran a few beads with .045 wire on some 3/8 inch plate and it is really a nice gun!

    A bit heavier and slightly larger than the M-25, but it has a real quality feel to it.
    It makes the M-25 feel like a cheapy by comparison.............. pg
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    "q-300"

    Originally posted by piniongear View Post
    After seeing some comments here and elsewhere on the Bernard Mig guns, I decided to change out my M-25 gun on my MM251 for a Bernard Q300 Centerfire.

    It arrived today and was easy to install.
    I ran a few beads with .045 wire on some 3/8 inch plate and it is really a nice gun!

    A bit heavier and slightly larger than the M-25, but it has a real quality feel to it.
    It makes the M-25 feel like a cheapy by comparison.............. pg
    You can easily convert your M-25 to accept "Centerfire" consumables as well. If the rotatable neck is hard to turn, you might have to stick it in a vise to loosen a little.

    They are nice guns.

    Congratulations

    Dave
    "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by davedarragh View Post
      You can easily convert your M-25 to accept "Centerfire" consumables as well. If the rotatable neck is hard to turn, you might have to stick it in a vise to loosen a little.

      They are nice guns.

      Congratulations

      Dave
      Dave,i thing the guy who installs the necks at the factory masters the Vulcan Death Grip,Frank
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      • #4
        Frank and Dave........
        Ha-Ha! Thanks for the tip Dave.
        I loosened the plastic nut (cover) and the neck seemed to be stuck in place.
        I then clamped it lightly in a vise and was able to rotate the handle. Once I got it to move the first time, I tightened and then loosened the nut and can now easily rotate the neck by hand.
        I guess I can go all the way around with the neck (360°) if I wanted to? Although it will be more like 45° in each direction maximum
        as a practical matter. Thanks again.......... pg
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        Baldor Double Cup Tool Grinder_3 phase
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        Cyclone 2ft X 3ft Bead Blast Cabinet
        Quincy 325 2stg- Air Compressor_3 phase
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        • #5
          PG,all 3 of my guns were the same.And for real hard to reach spots they also have a small adaptor so you can connect a second neck onto the one you have,Frank
          Last edited by Frank Motoweld; 09-17-2009, 05:55 PM.
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          • #6
            Frank......
            Yep! I really thought my gun was not a rotating model from the feel of it. Had I not been given the tip about using a vise to hold it I would still be out there wrestling with it.
            After it did move however, it seems like it is no longer tight and rotates easily.
            I suppose at the factory they really torque down the nut to seat the fitting and the result is a very stiff piece.
            I sure do like the gun though!...... pg
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            10 inch South Bend Lathe_3 phase
            Baldor Double Cup Tool Grinder_3 phase
            Baldor 10 inch Buffer
            Rockwell 12 inch Disc Sander
            Cyclone 2ft X 3ft Bead Blast Cabinet
            Quincy 325 2stg- Air Compressor_3 phase
            Graymills Built-in Parts Washer
            Rockwell/Delta Planer, HD Shaper, Uni-Saw etc.

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            • #7
              LOL. Congrats on the new gun! Yep, all 3 of mine were v.irgin tight too. Had to use the vice on all of them. Yes, you can spin it around 360 if you want to. Bernard makes a flexible neck you can put on there too. It will bend up to 90 degrees or go straight out with no bend at all, rotates too. I have one for the Passport and it is a cool thing to use sometimes.
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              • #8
                Thanks DR.
                I will check out that flexible neck. That seems like it would be an advantage to have one.
                I can also see where I am going to like turning the neck left 45° to weld up in corners with the Q300.

                You were one of the guys whose comments drove me to get the Q gun. Thank you...... pg
                Dynasty 200 DX_set up on 3 phase
                Coolmate 3
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                HTP 625 Micro Cut Plasma Cutter
                Victor O/A Rig
                Bridgeport Mill_3 phase (w/ Acu-Rite 4 axis DRO)
                10 inch South Bend Lathe_3 phase
                Baldor Double Cup Tool Grinder_3 phase
                Baldor 10 inch Buffer
                Rockwell 12 inch Disc Sander
                Cyclone 2ft X 3ft Bead Blast Cabinet
                Quincy 325 2stg- Air Compressor_3 phase
                Graymills Built-in Parts Washer
                Rockwell/Delta Planer, HD Shaper, Uni-Saw etc.

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                • #9
                  LOL. I knew you'd like that Bernard.

                  The only bad thing about the flexy neck is it's a bit pricey.
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                  -PassportPlus/Q300
                  -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
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                  -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                  -Smith oxy/propane
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                  • #10
                    Sob

                    I sure am glad I read this thread. I tried loosening and rotating mine the other day. After a while I thought maybe I got screwed. I got the nut loose with a pipe wrench but couldn't rotate the neck by hand, I'll put it in the vise tomarrow.

                    Hey, what about these jumper liners? The original gun itself doesn't have one. Or does it? I guess when the old liner goes bad you cut out the correct length and add in the jumper liner.
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                    • #11
                      Yeah they just come with one continuous liner when new. I've never used the jump liners but I think next time I'll try it instead of buying a new liner.
                      Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                      Millermatic175
                      MillermaticPassport/Q300
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                      PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
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                      Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                      Purox oxy/ace
                      Jackson EQC
                      -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                      -LoadNGo utility bed
                      -Bobcat 250NT
                      -PassportPlus/Q300
                      -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
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                      -Suitcase12RC/Q300
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                      • #12
                        What does the jumper liner do and how does it work. I ask because I might be getting a bernard gun for my passport plus next week for my birthday
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mega Arc 5040DD View Post
                          What does the jumper liner do and how does it work. I ask because I might be getting a bernard gun for my passport plus next week for my birthday
                          With a new gun it will have a one pc. liner in it,the liners wear in the neck where the radius is so when that area gets worn just cut the old liner off and install the jump liner it's only about 12" long .i have 5-6 of the 300
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                          • #14
                            how do you know when its time to change the liner

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                            • #15
                              "Time For Change"

                              Originally posted by roylowell View Post
                              how do you know when its time to change the liner
                              When it's worn out
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