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    I am getting ready to purchase a plasma and I originally convinced myself the 375 x-treme was the way to go. Well, I got to looking at the cut speed of the 375 and the 625 and there is a big difference. I understand the 625 is 220 VAC only and the 375 is switchable but the voltage doesn't matter to me.

    Seems the 625 is not that much more than the 375 which leads to the question. Which should I get and why? Most of my cutting is 3/8 or less although I do have to repair some hefty farm equipment on occasion.
    Just because you have one, doesn't mean you have to act like one.

    Miller 212
    Hobart 135
    Miller 375 X-treme
    Really antique Sears Arc N Spark
    O/A Torch Setup

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    purple: If the 625 would have been available when I bought my 375, I would have bought it. It has a 40 amp torch, can gouge, and is physically, the same size.

    For the difference in price, the 625 is a better value.

    Dave
    "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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    • #3
      Like Dave, I too own a Spectrum 375. If the 625 had been available when I bought mine, there would be no contest - 625 Xtreme without a doubt.

      When you say it's not much more than a 375, I'm confused. It is a higher amp cutter, half the weight, and has a higher duty cycle and can gouge. I don't think you can directly compare the two. They are both fine machines for their intended purpose, but I would rather have the capacity and not need it than not have it and need it. Street prices aren't that far apart either.

      Whichever you purchase, I'm sure you will be satisfied with it.

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      • #4
        Sorry, I wasn't clear. When I said not much difference I meant in price. I think I can get the 625 x-treme shipped to me for around $1500 and I think the 375 is around $1200.

        Thanks for the input. I think it will be the 625.

        If am going to open my wallet, what accessories should I get with it?
        Just because you have one, doesn't mean you have to act like one.

        Miller 212
        Hobart 135
        Miller 375 X-treme
        Really antique Sears Arc N Spark
        O/A Torch Setup

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Old Sporty View Post
          Like Dave, I too own a Spectrum 375. If the 625 had been available when I bought mine, there would be no contest - 625 Xtreme without a doubt.

          When you say it's not much more than a 375, I'm confused. It is a higher amp cutter, half the weight, and has a higher duty cycle and can gouge. I don't think you can directly compare the two. They are both fine machines for their intended purpose, but I would rather have the capacity and not need it than not have it and need it. Street prices aren't that far apart either.

          Whichever you purchase, I'm sure you will be satisfied with it.
          Hey Old Sporty,
          I think what he meant by "they are not not much more than the 375", is that the price is not that much more. So the logical decision is to get the more powerful of the two. Anyway that is just my take on his post.
          Thanks,
          Nick

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          • #6
            By all means get the 625 machine. Not the 375.
            That is a no brainer, and you will be glad you spent the extra few hundred $$ for it, I can guarantee you that!........... pg
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            Coolmate 3
            MM 251 w/ Spoolmatic 30A
            HTP 625 Micro Cut Plasma Cutter
            Victor O/A Rig
            Bridgeport Mill_3 phase (w/ Acu-Rite 4 axis DRO)
            10 inch South Bend Lathe_3 phase
            Baldor Double Cup Tool Grinder_3 phase
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            Rockwell 12 inch Disc Sander
            Cyclone 2ft X 3ft Bead Blast Cabinet
            Quincy 325 2stg- Air Compressor_3 phase
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            • #7
              Go for the 625. You can always turn the amps down but sometimes the extra capacity is a blessing for a little more cash. Both are good reliable machines by the way.
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              • #8
                I'll throw a monkey into the situation and say that my choice would be the Hypertherm Powermax 45, which is priced close to the 625X but is one step up in capability, not much bigger or heavier and comes with a nicer torch.
                Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                Millermatic175
                MillermaticPassport/Q300
                HTP MIG200
                PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                Purox oxy/ace
                Jackson EQC
                -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                -LoadNGo utility bed
                -Bobcat 250NT
                -PassportPlus/Q300
                -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                -Smith oxy/propane
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                • #9
                  Thanks for the input folks. I am now leaning towards the 625 but I will take a look at the HT 45 mentioned here also.
                  Just because you have one, doesn't mean you have to act like one.

                  Miller 212
                  Hobart 135
                  Miller 375 X-treme
                  Really antique Sears Arc N Spark
                  O/A Torch Setup

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                  • #10
                    I have the 375x-treme and am completely Happy with it. I do not use it in a commercial environment at all, and I dont mind the lower inch per minute on the thicker stuff. BUT, If I had it to do over I most likely would have to go with the highest amps in the small package cutters. Be it Miller, Hypertherm, Or one of the other major brands. I really like the fact that mine is only 18 lbs, I would also state that my experience with 1/4 inch was very good with the cutter hooked to 110.

                    Good Luck with your decision purplewg.

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                    O/A Medium Radnor Torch, Large Victor Torch.
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                    • #11
                      A smaller lighter more powerful unit would be nice. My Powermax 380 is as capable as a Miller 375 or Powermax 30, but weighs a good 60 lbs with the torch. It's a heavy little sucker. It runs on both 110v and 220v, but I have to change the plug to swap connections, so I just leave the 220v plug on it and run it 220 exclusively. I have used it on 110 before and it works ok, just doesn't have max output available on 110.

                      I like that the Powermax 45 isn't much bigger or heavier than a 375XTreme or Powermax 30, but is more powerful than a 625XTreme, for about the same amount of money as a 625. The quick release removeable torch feature would be cool to have too for storage on the truck. It comes with 20' or 50' choice of torch length too. The V-shaped torch nozzle would be nice too for seeing around the cut better or getting up into the corners easier. Hypertherm does make an excellent torch.

                      I don't know if Miller still makes the power supplies for Hypertherm, but they used to not long ago.
                      Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                      Millermatic175
                      MillermaticPassport/Q300
                      HTP MIG200
                      PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                      ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                      DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                      Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                      Purox oxy/ace
                      Jackson EQC
                      -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                      -LoadNGo utility bed
                      -Bobcat 250NT
                      -PassportPlus/Q300
                      -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                      -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                      -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                      -Smith oxy/propane
                      -Jackson EQC

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                      • #12
                        We just looked at the 375 and the 625, we bought the 625. But we need to do 1/2" and up on occasion so the choice was easy.
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                        HF251D1 High Frequency Box
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                        Miller Spectrum 625 Xtreme


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                        • #13
                          Now, here is my situation. I got only a 60 amp service in my garage. I will be running a 60gal air compressor (15amps), plus some lights, etc.

                          What size plasma am I going to be able to run??? I have my eye on a Miller, plus I also looked at the Hypertherm and Thermal Dynamics. Originally I wanted to go with the 625 class. Can I run it full throttle and have the compressor kick on without blowing the breaker???

                          If not, how does the 375 Xtreme compare to the Hypertherm 30, or the Thermal Dynamics 39?

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                          • #14
                            The 375X and Powermax 30 are like 2 peas in a pod, except for the torch's frontends and the multi-voltage plugs. Miller builds both power supplies, Hypertherm builds both torches. They're almost the same. Pick your favorite color, blue or grey.
                            Millermatic350P/Python, MillermaticReach/Q300
                            Millermatic175
                            MillermaticPassport/Q300
                            HTP MIG200
                            PowCon 300SM, MK Cobramatic
                            ThermalArc 185ACDC, Dynaflux Tig'r, CK-20
                            DialarcHF, Radiator-1
                            Hypertherm PowerMax 380
                            Purox oxy/ace
                            Jackson EQC
                            -F350 CrewCab 4x4
                            -LoadNGo utility bed
                            -Bobcat 250NT
                            -PassportPlus/Q300
                            -XMT304/Optima/Spoolmatic15A
                            -Suitcase8RC/Q400
                            -Suitcase12RC/Q300
                            -Smith oxy/propane
                            -Jackson EQC

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                            • #15
                              Huh?

                              Originally posted by Desertrider33 View Post
                              The 375X and Powermax 30 are like 2 peas in a pod, except for the torch's frontends and the multi-voltage plugs. Miller builds both power supplies, Hypertherm builds both torches. They're almost the same. Pick your favorite color, blue or grey.
                              Miller builds Hypertherm? They're in New Hampshire (Hypertherm).

                              Learn something new everyday.

                              Dave
                              "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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