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  • Can Engine-Driven Welder Plug In?

    I doubt this one exists but it sure would be cool if you could plug a trailblazer into a 220v receptacle and use it in your shop without the engine. I dont see why it would not be a possibility as it is essentially a XMT inverter powered by a generator. Can this be done now or do I have to wait for the fine folks at miller to develop this function.

  • #2
    I think they have something like that, not sure about the model.

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    • #3
      The Trailblazer is not anywhere near an inverter. You might be thinking of the PipePro. It has the XMT engine and it CAN be used on shore power with the shore power transfer kit.
      The Trailblazer is an electronic field controlled 3ph weld output machine. The generator is required for it to run.

      Maybe in the future a "Dynasty" engine drive would be cool!

      Andy

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      • #4
        I might be wrong,but I think it's the renegade that you can do that with...that's the engine driven mig/flux-core machine...no stick welding.
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        • #5
          its the pipepro that does that!
          DODGE 1 TON 6.7
          PIPEPRO 304
          TO MANY TOOLS
          JUST WELDING IN CIRCLES
          rig welders are like wheelbarrows hard to push around
          and easily upset
          go flames go

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          • #6
            "Plugged In"

            Actually, chrisa7164 is 1/2 right. The new Renegade 180 is an industry-first integrated wire welder/generator WITH Dual Power. You can weld from 230V shop power or from 1 cylinder Kohler 10 hp engine.

            The PipePro 304 has an OPTIONAL dual power feature which operates from 230V shop power single or 3-phase or the Kubota 26 hp diesel.

            Dave
            "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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            • #7
              Well now I believe it is high time to upgrade the Renegade into the 211 model.

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              • #8
                That would be neat, Trailblazer 302 Air Pak that can run on electricity and gas! Except the price!
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                • #9
                  It would be even cooler if you could start it on the engine then plug the shore power cord into the 230v outlet on the front of the machine.

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                  • #10
                    I my self have thought that something like that would be cool.

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                    • #11
                      I suppose it would be possible to drive that engine with a outside electric motor & shaft though it would have to be in perfect balance.

                      You would also have to pull your spark plugs and put in air one way check valves and use the engine as an air compressor. You would have to have a fuel and spark shut off. Hmmmm. Still might be too much torque on the flywheel

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by walker View Post
                        It would be even cooler if you could start it on the engine then plug the shore power cord into the 230v outlet on the front of the machine.
                        I'm not sure I follow what your getting at here?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by c wagner View Post
                          I'm not sure I follow what your getting at here?
                          I am not "shore" either!
                          DODGE 1 TON 6.7
                          PIPEPRO 304
                          TO MANY TOOLS
                          JUST WELDING IN CIRCLES
                          rig welders are like wheelbarrows hard to push around
                          and easily upset
                          go flames go

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pipeline Dan View Post
                            I am not "shore" either!
                            Good one!!!
                            at home:
                            2012 325 Trailblazer EFI with Excel power
                            2007 302 Trailblazer with the Robin SOLD
                            2008 Suitcase 12RC
                            Spoolmatic 30A
                            WC-24
                            2009 Dynasty 200DX
                            2000 XMT 304
                            2008 Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 52
                            Sold:MM130XP
                            Sold:MM 251
                            Sold:CST 280

                            at work:
                            Invision 350MP
                            Dynasty 350
                            Millermatic 350P
                            Retired:Shopmaster 300 with a HF-251

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by walker View Post
                              It would be even cooler if you could start it on the engine then plug the shore power cord into the 230v outlet on the front of the machine.
                              Why would you want to do that??? I don't get it. There's no need to use both power sources (shore power & generator) at the same time. The machine runs fine on one or the other at a time. It might even fry something inside if it's plugged into shore power while running the generator???
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