Vert stick

[strictlycarved]

so im sure this has been posted but i cant find it. so here is goes. my flat and corner welds on mild steel with a stick look great but when i go vert it goes to **** the weld splits it drips everything else but a decent weld. so what is the basic procedure with vert ive tried up down all angles but nothing works. anything will help. thanks.

[Rig Hand]

What type of rod? What size of rod? How many amp? ??????????

[2tay530]

i have the same problem when i run dc. im using 1/8 6011 at about 105 amp on my hobart(miller name wasnt worth the extra bucks). it gets a little bit beter wen i run AC but not much.

[strictlycarved]

running 3/32 6013 at 72amp. material is .065.

[Sonora Iron]

running 3/32 6013 at 72amp. material is .065.

Vertical up on .065! WOW! If you ever master that I’ll give you one of these.


This has down hill written all over it.

[davedarragh]

"Ditto"

Vertical up on .065! WOW! If you ever master that I’ll give you one of these.


This has down hill written all over it.

Yep, 16 ga., downhand. 6013's come in 1/16" and 5/64" rods as well, can be run on DC- or AC to prevent "burn through."

Dave

[strictlycarved]

ill try the 1/16. i have been running dc-. i need to get thicker to practice but is so expensive. thanks whats the technique for running vert? up and down?

[Rig Hand]

I think 6013 is one of the hardest rods to run up hill but their was a guy on hobarts forum named flange jockey that really good at 6013 pipe welds. If any one has time thier worth looking up. I agree with everyone else about getting thicker metal.

[kevin]

6013

does anybody still use 6013, i think the last time i used it was in shop class in high school but mayby im wrong, isnt some sort of 6013 used for under water and also isnt there a very long 6013 for welding roof deck to the barjoist, or is that 6011.

[davedarragh]

"Underwater?"

does anybody still use 6013, i think the last time i used it was in shop class in high school but mayby im wrong, isnt some sort of 6013 used for under water and also isnt there a very long 6013 for welding roof deck to the barjoist, or is that 6011.

E6022 is the deck rod you speak of, and I don't think E6013's will run underwater. They still are used in "light" applications. Good training rod, "easy to use, hard to learn." E-6010's & 6011's "hard to learn, easy to use."

Dave

[tanglediver]

E6013 - Good training rod, "easy to use, hard to learn." E-6010's & 6011's "hard to learn, easy to use."

I gotta think on that one.....

You might try E7018 with electrode positive. What we do is to start flat, then tilt up a little at a time. Just run over the same piece of steel, let it grow! When it gets too hot, dunk it.
Just don't dunk a piece you want to use somewhere, it could cause cracks to form.