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  • Dynasty 200DX with MVP cord/plugs??

    Is it possible to use one of the MVP cords/plugs with the Dynasty 200DX? I asked because I like my Passport Plus with the MVP, however after looking at the parts manual I believe I would need the DVI2 cord, since they are both 12ga wire (opposed the PPs 14ga). Has anyone done the swap?

    I am looking to do it for simplicty sake in extra outlets/wire plus it is nice to be able to swap the plugs quickly if I need to connect it to a 110 outlet. Plus the 2ft longer cord can be nice, I found with my PP+ it would have come in hand..

    Thanks for the help!

  • #2
    You could but you're probably better off just making a few different pigtails. I've got a 3ph 4 wire plug on my welder, a 4 wire extension cord and then a 3 wire 1ph adapter and a 120 that plugs into that.
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    • #3
      Do a search. This has been covered so many times it's rediculous.
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      • #4
        Eyecandy,
        I am doing that exact mod to my Dynasty 200 DX tomorrow. I'll post how it went after I get it done.
        Mike
        Last edited by Awestech; 04-14-2009, 12:32 AM.
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        • #5
          Why?

          You can make a Pigtail for less than 20 bux.

          How much does the MVP power Cord and MVP plugs cost?
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          • #6
            Dude,
            Don't bother. It won't work as a direct wire replacement cord. The 4 wires in the Dynasty are set up for single OR 3 phase. The MVP cords 4 wire set up is for single phase tapping off different parts of a main input transformer. You can not directly wire the MVP plug to the Dynasty because in one configuration you would be trying to run single phase into the 3 phase wire of the Dynasty. Won't work. Not advised. Void warranty.

            Andy

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ASKANDY View Post
              Dude,
              Don't bother. It won't work as a direct wire replacement cord. The 4 wires in the Dynasty are set up for single OR 3 phase. The MVP cords 4 wire set up is for single phase tapping off different parts of a main input transformer. You can not directly wire the MVP plug to the Dynasty because in one configuration you would be trying to run single phase into the 3 phase wire of the Dynasty. Won't work. Not advised. Void warranty.

              Andy
              It can and has been done. I've done it, and it works. You lose the 3-phase option though.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the responses, I will have to do a little bit of searching, I called up Miller the DVI2 cord is about $70, I have a 110 and 230 plug for my PP+ can can just easily swap the 110 between the two, and purchase a second 230MVP.

                I understand its not the most economical way to do this, I just worry getting wires crossed or not being about to find a plug/outlet.

                Anyone have links on custom adapters?

                Originally posted by tasslehawf View Post
                You could but you're probably better off just making a few different pigtails. I've got a 3ph 4 wire plug on my welder, a 4 wire extension cord and then a 3 wire 1ph adapter and a 120 that plugs into that.
                DO you have any pics or part numbers for the adapters?

                Originally posted by Awestech View Post
                Eyecandy,
                I am doing that exact mod to my Dynasty 200 DX tomorrow. I'll post how it went after I get it done.
                Mike
                Please let me know how it turns out and post up some pics!!



                Originally posted by ASKANDY View Post
                Dude,
                Don't bother. It won't work as a direct wire replacement cord. The 4 wires in the Dynasty are set up for single OR 3 phase. The MVP cords 4 wire set up is for single phase tapping off different parts of a main input transformer. You can not directly wire the MVP plug to the Dynasty because in one configuration you would be trying to run single phase into the 3 phase wire of the Dynasty. Won't work. Not advised. Void warranty.

                Andy
                I kinda don't follow, they are both 12G 4C cords, one has a bare end while the other is a termiated/adapter end. Wire is wire, so the MVP would be connected the same as the Dynasty... Afterall I though the Dynasty is automatically detects the voltage so all I would be doing is switching the MVP plugs....same as wiring up/installing a plug on the existing Dynasty cord except u just get it done faster....

                My 3yr warranty is up in a month... I guess not much too worry there.

                As for the 3phase, I don not for see me needing that feature, if there is an instance I would need it, I would say they already have the welder I need...

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                • #9
                  A little addition I would like to make, it dawned on me afterwards. I unstand about not being about to use the 3ph since there is no 3ph MVP which is no big deal for me seeing as I will use 230 in the garage, and most likely 110 on the road, and I have only seen 3ph in industrial applications which I do not see me going there.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TS-Off-Road View Post
                    It can and has been done. I've done it, and it works. You lose the 3-phase option though.
                    Ahhh NO, on a single phase dynasty you use the black and the white wires, 3 phase you use the red. If you are using the red in single phase you will smoke the boost board and generally take out the mother board when the boost board craps out, and get absoutly zero warranty on it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                      Ahhh NO, on a single phase dynasty you use the black and the white wires, 3 phase you use the red. If you are using the red in single phase you will smoke the boost board and generally take out the mother board when the boost board craps out, and get absoutly zero warranty on it.
                      10-4 Pretty much what I was saying.
                      TS-
                      I KNOW it can be done. But most people hook up all 4 wires just as they sit and that is WRONG. You actually have to piggyback 2 of the MVP wires together to use the proper single phase input.
                      Still voiding the warranty.

                      A

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cruizer View Post
                        Ahhh NO, on a single phase dynasty you use the black and the white wires, 3 phase you use the red. If you are using the red in single phase you will smoke the boost board and generally take out the mother board when the boost board craps out, and get absoutly zero warranty on it.
                        No what??? Are you speaking from experience or just guessing???

                        I've done it. It works fine. As far as voiding the warranty, if it's wired correctly with the MVP cord I don't see how that could happen. You could just as easily void the warranty wiring a standard plug incorrectly.

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                        • #13
                          I have a thread somewhere on this board with pics on how its done

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TS-Off-Road View Post
                            No what??? Are you speaking from experience or just guessing???

                            I've done it. It works fine. As far as voiding the warranty, if it's wired correctly with the MVP cord I don't see how that could happen. You could just as easily void the warranty wiring a standard plug incorrectly.
                            Hmmm, I'm a Miller CST tech, I've seen it before, and no warranty for the fella or firm that did it. I've seen lots of wierd stuff that customers have done to thier machines and expect warranty on. These guys I either tell that they have to pay for the repair or send them on there way...
                            Last edited by cruizer; 04-14-2009, 07:03 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I changed the power cord that came with my Dynasty 200
                              to a 10/3 cable. So there is nothing attached to L3, and if the need comes-up for three phase I'll put the 12/4 back on it. There's nothing wrong with this right?
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