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  • #16
    I bought a sync. 180 and it's been enough for anything I've had to do so far. I wouldn't mind getting a hand control someday though.

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    • #17
      tstrboy,

      Nice machine. Should serve you well for years.

      Not to be harsh or anything, but you may have got hoodwinked regarding the warranty left on that machine.

      I'm guessing that that machine is 5-7 years old. That being the case--NO WARRANTY.

      You can determine the date of manufacture by taking the serial number and comparing it to Miller's listing of dates of manufacture based on serial #.

      The Sync 250's produced in the last 5+ years have the power switch located on the right side of the front panel. Also went to dinse connectors vs lugs at about the same time.

      Miller's original warranty on that machine was 3 yrs on the power supply. That machine is definitely more than 3 yrs old.

      Still a great machine and a good deal for you. Just didn't want you to be misled and think you still had warranty coverage.
      Syncrowave 250 DX Tigrunner
      Dynasty 200 DX
      Miller XMT 304 w/714D Feeder & Optima Control
      Miller MM 251 w/Q300 & 30A SG
      Hobart HH187
      Dialarc 250 AC/DC
      Hypertherm PM 600 & 1250
      Wilton 7"x12" bandsaw
      PC Dry Cut Saw, Dewalt Chop Saw
      Milwaukee 8" Metal Cut Saw, Milwaukee Portaband.
      Thermco and Smith (2) Gas Mixers
      More grinders than hands

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      • #18
        thanks.. yeah now I have a little worry surfacing ha ha...

        not sure where I can put the serial in and find the age etc... I registered it at least...

        fingers crossed it all works...

        it doesnt have a miller water cooler, but it is a decent one... should it have the coolant in it?? it looks like plain water.. will have to get all the details on it so all the knowledgeable guys on here can let me know...

        also big thanks to DSW for all your pms and advice...
        Miller Syncrowave 250 DX
        Miller Auto Arc 142

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        • #19
          Anytime, glad I could help.

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          • #20
            tstrboy,

            After looking at the photos once more, I'll futher add that the owner's manual you show is not for the machine you purchased. I'd recommend downloading the correct manual for your machine.

            The manual shown is for a Sync 250 produced in about the 2004 timeframe. Those Sync 250 DX Tigrunners had the water cooler integrated into the main portion of the machine (along with the power supply). Later versions went with the Coolmate 3 & running gear mounted below the power supply.

            The two plastic inserts on the top of the case are the tips. The one on the left (facing the front of the machine) was for the coolant fill and the one on the right was a flip out support for your cables, etc.

            As I said before, you got a nice machine for a good price, but it is older than was portrayed by the seller.

            Check that Serial # and let us know what you found.
            Syncrowave 250 DX Tigrunner
            Dynasty 200 DX
            Miller XMT 304 w/714D Feeder & Optima Control
            Miller MM 251 w/Q300 & 30A SG
            Hobart HH187
            Dialarc 250 AC/DC
            Hypertherm PM 600 & 1250
            Wilton 7"x12" bandsaw
            PC Dry Cut Saw, Dewalt Chop Saw
            Milwaukee 8" Metal Cut Saw, Milwaukee Portaband.
            Thermco and Smith (2) Gas Mixers
            More grinders than hands

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            • #21
              serial is

              LE 349055

              Stock # 903276
              Miller Syncrowave 250 DX
              Miller Auto Arc 142

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              • #22
                ok now I am confused...

                I look this one up and
                http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o353u_mil.pdf it aint my machine

                so i look this one up syncrowave 250DX and get
                http://www.millerwelds.com/service/locate_om.php

                so I try these 2 =which are the same manual...

                http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o362a_mil.pdf
                &
                http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o362a_mil.pdf

                and it kinda looks like my machine but I guess newer...

                mine definitely doesnt have the integrated cooler... I think it has like connections but it has an added cooler...

                ok.. back to do some searching... the buttons on teh right of the machine are blanked off if that helps anyone!??!?!!?
                Miller Syncrowave 250 DX
                Miller Auto Arc 142

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SundownIII View Post
                  tstrboy,

                  After looking at the photos once more, I'll futher add that the owner's manual you show is not for the machine you purchased. I'd recommend downloading the correct manual for your machine.

                  The manual shown is for a Sync 250 produced in about the 2004 timeframe. Those Sync 250 DX Tigrunners had the water cooler integrated into the main portion of the machine (along with the power supply). Later versions went with the Coolmate 3 & running gear mounted below the power supply.

                  The two plastic inserts on the top of the case are the tips. The one on the left (facing the front of the machine) was for the coolant fill and the one on the right was a flip out support for your cables, etc.

                  As I said before, you got a nice machine for a good price, but it is older than was portrayed by the seller.

                  Check that Serial # and let us know what you found.
                  ok... so the manual I have is the same as the machine.. its not a tigrunner, it doesnt have coolant filler neck, those tabs are BOTH hangers for chords.. they are exactly teh same side to side...

                  the right side panel of buttons are blanked off.. is this something I can add too later with an updated board??

                  **** it... this thing better work ha ha ha... or I have one expensive pretty looking piece of blue metal..ha ha oh well.. still a good buy (I guess).. will know soon when i get the electric sorted out..

                  my problem now is I cannot find literature on this model I have anywhere.. so more searching I guess...
                  Miller Syncrowave 250 DX
                  Miller Auto Arc 142

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                  • #24
                    Drop a email to tech support at millwelds.com and or give them a call.

                    I did that on an old mig machine and got great support in less then 24hrs!

                    Tim
                    sigpicRetired Elevator Consrtructor Local 19 IUEC
                    AK bush pilot (no longer in AK) too old and no longer bold)
                    Chaplain CMA chapter 26
                    Dynasty200dx (new and loving it)
                    MM-252 (NEW AND LEARNING IT)
                    Hypertherm PM-45
                    Miller 140 mig 110v
                    Vtwin builder

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                    • #25
                      just did...

                      then I found this...''

                      http://www.millerwelds.com/search/?q=196%20831q

                      but the manual says December 2000

                      but the manual I have which is the same says January 2004

                      I am confused.. now starting to stress.. only because if I was lied to on teh age of the machine (unless they only bought it form the supplier 2yrs ago) cause for a machine sitting in a welding shop it isnt very dirty... I will call teh supplier on the side.. I just hope that it was owned and not on payment form tehm.. ha ha
                      Miller Syncrowave 250 DX
                      Miller Auto Arc 142

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TSTRBOY2004 View Post
                        serial is

                        LE 349055

                        Stock # 903276
                        http://www.millerwelds.com/service/locate_om.php
                        Ed Conley
                        http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
                        MM252
                        MM211
                        Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
                        TA185
                        Miller 125c Plasma 120v
                        O/A set
                        SO 2020 Bender
                        You can call me Bacchus

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                        • #27
                          yes.. I already posted that info

                          read my last 5 posts above.. ha ha

                          thanks anyways..
                          Miller Syncrowave 250 DX
                          Miller Auto Arc 142

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                          • #28
                            I feel your frustration.

                            When I chased my mig welder serial, I came up with similar but not the right unit, (my email got the gal that distributes literature, she got me the "owners manual" and then transfered me to the "technical support" and they got me the parts manual and "superceeded" part numbers to order from the LWS distributor?

                            Ti
                            sigpicRetired Elevator Consrtructor Local 19 IUEC
                            AK bush pilot (no longer in AK) too old and no longer bold)
                            Chaplain CMA chapter 26
                            Dynasty200dx (new and loving it)
                            MM-252 (NEW AND LEARNING IT)
                            Hypertherm PM-45
                            Miller 140 mig 110v
                            Vtwin builder

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TSTRBOY2004 View Post
                              yes.. I already posted that info

                              read my last 5 posts above.. ha ha

                              thanks anyways..
                              Link didn't work

                              supposed to Link to this page (Photo attached) and if ya enter yer serial number you get Manual #0359

                              Here:
                              http://www.millerwelds.com/om/o359p_mil.pdf
                              Attached Files
                              Ed Conley
                              http://www.screamingbroccoli.net/
                              MM252
                              MM211
                              Passport Plus w/Spool Gun
                              TA185
                              Miller 125c Plasma 120v
                              O/A set
                              SO 2020 Bender
                              You can call me Bacchus

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                              • #30
                                That machine, based on the serial number, was manufactured sometime around July 2004, which would coincide with the date you have on the manual that came with the machine.

                                I suspect that machine was made about the time that Miller designed the integrated cooler into the main machine. For those machines that were shipped without coolers (non-tigrunners) the reservoir fill was replaced with another hanger bracket like that on the right side of the machine.

                                Didn't think I'd be too far off with the age of the machine. Serial number confirms it. Warranty ran out sometime in 2007, unless you can prove that it was sold retail at a much later date.

                                Just wanted to let you know what you have. Still think the seller may have blown a little smoke up your lower posterior.
                                Syncrowave 250 DX Tigrunner
                                Dynasty 200 DX
                                Miller XMT 304 w/714D Feeder & Optima Control
                                Miller MM 251 w/Q300 & 30A SG
                                Hobart HH187
                                Dialarc 250 AC/DC
                                Hypertherm PM 600 & 1250
                                Wilton 7"x12" bandsaw
                                PC Dry Cut Saw, Dewalt Chop Saw
                                Milwaukee 8" Metal Cut Saw, Milwaukee Portaband.
                                Thermco and Smith (2) Gas Mixers
                                More grinders than hands

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