Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Sure are alot of welding rigs for sale.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Sberry
    replied
    And how many people told the young Mr. Steve Jobs and the young Mr. Bill Gates, "Hehe,,, cute little hobby you got there,,, Yeah, keep playing with your computers on weekends,,, Keep you outta trouble,,, but remember,, it's just a fad, you'll never make a dime off it, you'll still need to get a real job someday ..."
    This argument is not a substitute for reality check, one of the things those guys have is business acumen, it wasn't just sheer effort or a "wish" or "will" , most business isn't.

    Leave a comment:


  • Jeb
    replied
    Oh yeah, do you guy's think I would need insurance??? I'm thinking not but it never hurts to ask. I'm trying to think of where to even go to see about a quote. Does State Farm or Allstate have welding policies for sheetmetal only welding businesses???

    Leave a comment:


  • Jeb
    replied
    Originally posted by Sberry View Post
    Bill Gates didn't spin off a hobby, he had a business plan. I can be a cheerleader if its right but I seen a few come and go too, I am with JT and Portable on this one.
    Who needs a business plan??? I think doing this off the cuff is the way to go man. No plan, no model, no nothing but putting myself out there and getting it done! I think when people see me pull up in my Camry wagon and pull out my HH 125EZ (I think I decided on that machine) they will be astounded at my capabilities.

    What does everyone think about community college welding courses??? Should I take one first or should I just bag it and learn from the school of hard knocks. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Leave a comment:


  • fabricator
    replied
    (I think I am just gonna go for this. I also think I won't have any kind of back-up plan because I have heard that that is a recipe for failure. I'm just gonna go full bore and try to bring in any work I can whether it's fixing taiplipes, lawnmower decks, BBQ grills or lawn furniture. I mean heck, if it get's too busy I can just hire someone to help, right???)


    I hear ya, set your goals high!

    Leave a comment:


  • Sberry
    replied
    I still think the best way to start is with a 120V mig and no one is gonna tell me otherwise, especially with MT in my court. I know it will be hard but I have been considering getting a loan from my local credit union to do this. I think I can get around $300 for sure and maybe a little more with the couple of credit card offers I have. This would more than get me started and If I put up some flyer's in the neighborhoods touting my talents I really think I could get this thing off the ground.
    Bill Gates didn't spin off a hobby, he had a business plan. I can be a cheerleader if its right but I seen a few come and go too, I am with JT and Portable on this one.

    Leave a comment:


  • Jeb
    replied
    Originally posted by Mastertig View Post
    Jeb!!!

    Don't listen to these guys,,,, just more negativism... Especially that JT guy, I've noticed him around before.

    Think about it,,,,, Everybody told Chris Columbus he was gonna sail off the edge ... He carried on anyway, and discovered this continent. If not for him, we'd all still be sitting and dancing around campfires every night, singing and chanting, to be sure the sun came up tomorrow.

    And how many people told the young Mr. Steve Jobs and the young Mr. Bill Gates, "Hehe,,, cute little hobby you got there,,, Yeah, keep playing with your computers on weekends,,, Keep you outta trouble,,, but remember,, it's just a fad, you'll never make a dime off it, you'll still need to get a real job someday ..."

    And how many people told Mr. Obama,,, "You know, you're a great community organizer, you write great books, you should just stop now while you're ahead." ????? Huh ????? You realize, if he didn't plow on, how close we would've been, to not having the GREATEST President ever???? I mean, I'm gonna get thousands of dollars, cities, counties, states gonna get millions and billions of dollars, Free money for everybody!!!!! AND,,,,, he's gonna balance the budget in a few years. Just read about this on the internet yesterday, he's truly a great man.

    So Keep the Faith, Jeb! You got an idea, you have the passion, go for it. Who knows, maybe all these guys laughing at you today, putting you down, will tomorrow be working for "Jeb's Welding Service."

    Thanks a bunch Mastertig!!! I really appreciate your support. I don't let the nay-sayers get me down though, I'm a positive outlook kinda guy for sure. It has been my dream now for sevearl years to start my sheetmetal only welding business and like I said before, I feel there really is a niche for this. Especially in this ecomomy where people need to get things fixed rather than buy new.

    I still think the best way to start is with a 120V mig and no one is gonna tell me otherwise, especially with MT in my court. I know it will be hard but I have been considering getting a loan from my local credit union to do this. I think I can get around $300 for sure and maybe a little more with the couple of credit card offers I have. This would more than get me started and If I put up some flyers in the neighborhoods touting my talents I really think I could get this thing off the ground.

    Craigslist is another good source and that is free so really, what do I have to lose???

    I think I am just gonna go for this. I also think I won't have any kind of back-up plan because I have heard that that is a recipe for failure. I'm just gonna go full bore and try to bring in any work I can whether it's fixing taiplipes, lawnmower decks, BBQ grills or lawn furniture. I mean heck, if it get's too busy I can just hire someone to help, right???

    Thanks a bunch Masterig!!!!!!!

    Leave a comment:


  • migwelder05
    replied
    ok guys calm down here.

    Leave a comment:


  • stick man
    replied
    Originally posted by Mastertig View Post
    Jeb!!!

    Don't listen to these guys,,,, just more negativism... Especially that JT guy, I've noticed him around before.

    Think about it,,,,, Everybody told Chris Columbus he was gonna sail off the edge ... He carried on anyway, and discovered this continent. If not for him, we'd all still be sitting and dancing around campfires every night, singing and chanting, to be sure the sun came up tomorrow.

    And how many people told the young Mr. Steve Jobs and the young Mr. Bill Gates, "Hehe,,, cute little hobby you got there,,, Yeah, keep playing with your computers on weekends,,, Keep you outta trouble,,, but remember,, it's just a fad, you'll never make a dime off it, you'll still need to get a real job someday ..."

    And how many people told Mr. Obama,,, "You know, you're a great community organizer, you write great books, you should just stop now while you're ahead." ????? Huh ????? You realize, if he didn't plow on, how close we would've been, to not having the GREATEST President ever???? I mean, I'm gonna get thousands of dollars, cities, counties, states gonna get millions and billions of dollars, Free money for everybody!!!!! AND,,,,, he's gonna balance the budget in a few years. Just read about this on the internet yesterday, he's truly a great man.

    So Keep the Faith, Jeb! You got an idea, you have the passion, go for it. Who knows, maybe all these guys laughing at you today, putting you down, will tomorrow be working for "Jeb's Welding Service."
    man are you serious nobody's trying to be negative just telling it like it is. have you ever tried to feed your family from a self employed buisness. pay your own taxes, insurance and expenses. And have to wonder when the next job will come. instead of getting all pissy you boys might want to listen to what some of the pro's have to say.

    Leave a comment:


  • Mastertig
    replied
    Jeb!!!

    Don't listen to these guys,,,, just more negativism... Especially that JT guy, I've noticed him around before.

    Think about it,,,,, Everybody told Chris Columbus he was gonna sail off the edge ... He carried on anyway, and discovered this continent. If not for him, we'd all still be sitting and dancing around campfires every night, singing and chanting, to be sure the sun came up tomorrow.

    And how many people told the young Mr. Steve Jobs and the young Mr. Bill Gates, "Hehe,,, cute little hobby you got there,,, Yeah, keep playing with your computers on weekends,,, Keep you outta trouble,,, but remember,, it's just a fad, you'll never make a dime off it, you'll still need to get a real job someday ..."

    And how many people told Mr. Obama,,, "You know, you're a great community organizer, you write great books, you should just stop now while you're ahead." ????? Huh ????? You realize, if he didn't plow on, how close we would've been, to not having the GREATEST President ever???? I mean, I'm gonna get thousands of dollars, cities, counties, states gonna get millions and billions of dollars, Free money for everybody!!!!! AND,,,,, he's gonna balance the budget in a few years. Just read about this on the internet yesterday, he's truly a great man.

    So Keep the Faith, Jeb! You got an idea, you have the passion, go for it. Who knows, maybe all these guys laughing at you today, putting you down, will tomorrow be working for "Jeb's Welding Service."

    Leave a comment:


  • stick man
    replied
    MY neighbor down the street from my welding shop just went out of buisness. while i feel bad for the guy. He was one of these know it all kinda of guys after 4 years he told me he managed zero regular customers and 70,000 in credit card deit. I use to throw some work his way and let him help me on bigger jobs til I found out he was going back and trying to steal the work. Not every one is cut out for buisness. Some times I get good stuff from the phone book, but I also get 4 calls a week for guys wanting work, and the wheel barrell repairs . Guess the best one was guy called wanting a shovel fixed told me if I could fix it for less than ten bucks he'd give me the job.

    Leave a comment:


  • JTMcC
    replied
    Portable Welder they are dropping like flies in the southwest right now.
    Welding machines, tools, trucks, gang boxes, almost everything fab related is selling cheap as these guys go under.
    There are a ton of bargains out there, I'm pretty much tooled up but some guys are making a killing on buying this stuff.
    A year ago these same guys were trying to tell me how to run a business. On the internet and in person. They're gone. We're still standing. Like you said, it's not as easy as a lot of people think.

    It's even worse in the residential and light commercial construction market, those guys are selling their stuff at auction and on craigslist for bargain basement prices. If a guy has the funds, it's a great time to be tooling up a real business and putting yourself in position to take advantage of the next big one.
    I believe these recessions are a great opportunity, plan and prepare, put every element in place so when the next boom hits you make the maximum available, the weak have been weeded out and they will gear up too late in the game, just like the last time.

    Yellow page adds never helped me but my work is quite a bit different than yours.

    JTMcC.

    Leave a comment:


  • Portable Welder
    replied
    Well said JTMcC.

    I too have been at it since 1988 and I couldnt agree more.

    Its not as easy as some make it sound, Its really hard to wear as many hats as we wear.
    It takes a combination of Luck, Hard work, & long hours to make it in business.

    Adam, I have been in the phone book since 1988 and agree that you dont get a ton of work out of it.
    Its about placement, the size of the add and how much competition is out there.
    Even though only 10% or less of my customers come from the phone book I have some of them year after year for several years that found me in the book.

    I sometimes get a $25,000 job out of the phone book, and I certainly get enouph out of it to pay for itself.

    On the other hand I have a buddy that his name started with a v and he rarely got any work because he was at the end of the list while I being an A started me in front of the book.

    Leave a comment:


  • admweld
    replied
    Originally posted by Coalsmoke View Post
    90% of my work was from repeat business or word of mouth referrals. I was in the yellow pages and I'd see $10-$15K a year of work from that, so it paid for itself, but generally it was all word of mouth for me.
    Yellow pages got me nothing but guys looking for work.All word mouth for me and a few hand placed business cards on heavy equipment in travels.

    Leave a comment:


  • JTMcC
    replied
    [QUOTE=Mastertig;179418]Jeb

    Don't listen to all the negative guys here, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do,,,,, FOLLOW your dreams!!!!!

    QUOTE]


    There's a big difference between being a "negative guy" and being a realist.
    When people post on the internet about starting a business they usually get a bunch of replies like you can do it, I'm sure you'll do fine, do good work and you'll do great, ra-ra-ra. These replies usually come from people who've never been in business long term if ever, or more likely from guys with a job who do part time work on the side.
    Then, they get a few realistic comments from people actually in the business day in and day out. Those post's will always sound negative to those who've never really done it.
    I've been feeding the kids with a stinger in my hand since 1985, good years and bad, boom or bust and like most people in my situation I've seen a ton of guys try to jump on the bandwagon during boom times only to attend the auction when they go out of business and buy their stuff at pennies on the dollar. They drop like flies, dissapearing a lot faster than they popped up. It's too bad for them as they have usually invested considerable time and effort and suffer a large loss.
    But some of us just keep chugging along thru boom and bust, I've seen several of both, and we've never paid a bill late. The kids continue to eat well and be clothed nicely, the house is warm and my Wife/Chic drives a nice reliable Suburban. So be carefull about plastering that "negative guy" tag on folks who actually know how it goes over a span of years. They are most likely giving the best advise available on the net to newcomers to the self employed welder dude world. I've watched well over a hundred come and go since the early '90's when I went to work for myself.
    It's similar to a salty old combat veteran 1st Sgt. telling the young men in his company that times will be hard and people will die. That's not a negative old Sargent, that's a realistic man who has been there and seen the damage that can be done trying to prepare those who have no idea what lies ahead.

    JTMcC.

    Leave a comment:


  • Mastertig
    replied
    Jeb,

    Don't listen to all the negative guys here, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do,,,,, FOLLOW your dreams!!!!!

    What you posted up, I think could be a real slick setup. Easy enough to put a shelf on the bottom, to hold some tools and parts. You could also have a little thing on the back, for a bottle, and chain it up tight. Then, just add some hooks on the sides, for cords, clamps, etc. And don't forget, you'll need to keep a cordless sawzall and a cordless grinder handy!!!

    Good luck, Jeb, and be sure to keep in touch, let us all know how it's going!!
    Last edited by Mastertig; 02-22-2009, 10:44 PM.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X