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    Is this a common or even a not so common practice?People modify everything just wondering if people ever modified welders.
    Harris welding torch
    Harris Cutting torch propane
    Syncrowave 200
    Mastercraft 4.5 grinder
    20 ton press
    Milwaukee 14" Dry Cut Machine
    Miller Digital Elite (Luckys Speed Shop)
    3/4" Welding Table

  • #2
    "Modify Welders?"

    SGS: I'm not sure if I understand your question. There are ACCESSORIES that are compatable with units to"enhance" or "expand" it's versatility and performance, but if you mean an owner arbitrarilly making unauthorized modifications to the physical machine, I say not. For one thing, it can (or would) void a warranty, and most likely overheat the machine causing irreversable damage, or worse yet, burn their house or shop to the ground.

    Dave
    "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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    • #3
      i have seen a few threads where people have taken a P.O.S. HF welder and went into it to try to make it work well enough to weld with. but never seen a thread of some one altering a Miller or other top brand. i think in the case of the better brands , they have them running at about peak performance. if nothing else to keep up with, or just pass the other big namers. looking at the duty cycle will show you how they run them to the top of there usable range. to get an extra 10 amps at the top end only to have a 0.5 duty cycle would be just over working for no real gain.
      as for making a MIG also TIG, or a TIG also MIG weld, they are not the same creatures CC VS CV, and as such you would need a lot of extra circuitry to MAKE it work. better to just buy what you need. if you get the right welder the first time out, you will be happy with its performance and not look for changing it.
      my Miller MIG and Miller plasma cutter have far exceeded my expectations, trying to alter them would be insane. same goes with My TA-185. they all have done much more than i had expected from them, i'm way past happy with them. i would not risk over working them just to gain a few amps.

      we all have a tendency to want to soop-up stuff or personalize it, just look at my riding mower. but some tools are just best left as is, they do the sooping-up and need no help.
      well thats my take on it any way.
      thanks for the help
      ......or..........
      hope i helped
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      • #4
        ooops forgot to add some stuff you can modify.
        lets see i have done, my truck, my car, my lawn mower, my shop, my bike, my house, my mail box,.... ... ok lets do this the easy way.
        things i have not modified.
        my welders and plasma cutters, o fair amount of my tools, my children..............yep i think thats about it.
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        ......or..........
        hope i helped
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SGS Welding View Post
          Is this a common or even a not so common practice?People modify everything just wondering if people ever modified welders.

          They do in the pipeline world, in an effort to get the machine to weld just a bit faster, or stack more iron.

          On 200's they roll the brush rack, use 300 brushes on one side, change the rpm's, Hybriweld has modified replacement coils, drag it into the swamp and have a voodoo mama throw magic water on it, ect.
          On 300's they do all of the above plus add sliders, put in early 80's 250 shunt coils, ect.

          JTMcC.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SGS Welding View Post
            Is this a common or even a not so common practice?People modify everything just wondering if people ever modified welders.
            A friend gave me an Lincoln AC buzzbox that he (or some previous
            owner) had hacked a hole in and wired up a 110v socket...
            Then I got it, and put in a new power cord, wired for a dryer socket,
            and took out the 110v socket (just in case...)

            Does that count?

            I have thought about building a rectifier for the buzzbox to get
            DC out of it -- but I'm too lazy right now

            I wouldn't hack anything new or that cost me real $ for
            the reasons that others mentioned.

            Frank

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            • #7
              "Lincoln Classics"

              JTMcC: John, those two machines are in a "class" all their own! Nothin' can touch 'em in the Pipeline World!

              Dave
              "Bonne journe'e mes amis"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fun4now View Post
                i have seen a few threads where people have taken a P.O.S. HF welder and went into it to try to make it work well enough to weld with. but never seen a thread of some one altering a Miller or other top brand.
                convert the HF stick to tig
                http://www.az-zbum.com/welder.upgrade.shtml

                add a pedal to a tig
                http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/s...ead.php?t=2423

                all found in a couple minutes with the google.
                I won't make any claim to their accuracy. or their SAFETY. but they are cheap.
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                • #9
                  I put long tube headers on my Dynasty.

                  lost a little low-end power, but more than made up for the loss with the gain on top.

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                  • #10
                    LOL.....I'm curious as to whether welders have been modified as well.....I mean, surely, a well rounded fabriucator should be able to come up with something useful....I remember my German buddy hooking a VW Golf heater core up to his over clocked computer to keep it cool....he had some sort of water pump too.....why not a water cooled welder to up it's duty cycle? Dave
                    Originally posted by spotsineyes View Post
                    I put long tube headers on my Dynasty.

                    lost a little low-end power, but more than made up for the loss with the gain on top.

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                    • #11
                      What are 200's and 300's? Big time welders I suspect.
                      Harris welding torch
                      Harris Cutting torch propane
                      Syncrowave 200
                      Mastercraft 4.5 grinder
                      20 ton press
                      Milwaukee 14" Dry Cut Machine
                      Miller Digital Elite (Luckys Speed Shop)
                      3/4" Welding Table

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                      • #12
                        I think he's talking about Lincoln SA-200s and SA-300s. Pipeliners deluxe.

                        GS

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by turbo38t View Post
                          LOL.....I'm curious as to whether welders have been modified as well.....I mean, surely, a well rounded fabriucator should be able to come up with something useful....I remember my German buddy hooking a VW Golf heater core up to his over clocked computer to keep it cool....he had some sort of water pump too.....why not a water cooled welder to up it's duty cycle? Dave
                          It is called a Water Cooled Tig Torch
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