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    I was thinking about this lately and would like other opinions about how welding manufactures get their figures on this. For example,on my maxstar 150 the manual says that the maximum rated output is 150 amps with imput voltage of 115 or 230 volts.NO WAY does this machine put out this on 115 imput, strait or reverse polarity. I know duty cyle is usualy less on 115 input but it welds twice as hot on 230.(about 150 amps as it should) I find this to be typical wording on most machines capable of 115 and 230.
    2- XMT's 350 cc/cv
    1- Blue star 185
    1- BOBCAT 250
    1- TRAILBLAZER 302
    1- MILLER DVI
    2- PASSPORT PLUS
    1- DYNASTY 200 DX
    1- DYNASTY 280 DX
    1- MAXSTAR 150 STL
    1- HF-251 BOX
    1- S-74D
    1- S-75DXA
    2- 12-RC SUITCASES
    1- 8-VS SUITCASE
    2- 30 A SPOOLGUNS

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    if you have the 115 with a big enough breaker fuse it will get hot as long as the fuse holds, but yes , there is way more jam with it plugged into 230 and easier on the unit itself

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fabricator View Post
      ...NO WAY does this machine put out this on 115 imput, ...
      Why not? What is the limiting factor in your analysis?

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      • #4
        I use it almost everyday. It will weld about 80 amps max on 115 volts and 140 on 230 volts. (sorry ,I meant INPUT not IMPUT)
        2- XMT's 350 cc/cv
        1- Blue star 185
        1- BOBCAT 250
        1- TRAILBLAZER 302
        1- MILLER DVI
        2- PASSPORT PLUS
        1- DYNASTY 200 DX
        1- DYNASTY 280 DX
        1- MAXSTAR 150 STL
        1- HF-251 BOX
        1- S-74D
        1- S-75DXA
        2- 12-RC SUITCASES
        1- 8-VS SUITCASE
        2- 30 A SPOOLGUNS

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        • #5
          How are you measuring the output?

          Are you limited by the circuit breaker in the 120V circuit?

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          • #6
            Very interesting....I find that the Dynasty 200 DX ZOOMS to 150 amps easily on 115v....maybe higher.
            I seldom use the feature but when I do it rules

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            • #7
              The Maxstar 150 is limited only on STICK welding when hooked up to 115 V input. It is limited to 100 Amps. Other than that, this machine will achieve its full output of 150 Amps on Stick 230 or TIG 115/230.

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              • #8
                Read the spec. this is coppied from it ( TIG: 5 - 150 A, 115 VAC ) im just saying in my 18 years of welding i know about how many amps a machine is putting out welding with it and this aint happening on 115 .
                2- XMT's 350 cc/cv
                1- Blue star 185
                1- BOBCAT 250
                1- TRAILBLAZER 302
                1- MILLER DVI
                2- PASSPORT PLUS
                1- DYNASTY 200 DX
                1- DYNASTY 280 DX
                1- MAXSTAR 150 STL
                1- HF-251 BOX
                1- S-74D
                1- S-75DXA
                2- 12-RC SUITCASES
                1- 8-VS SUITCASE
                2- 30 A SPOOLGUNS

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fabricator View Post
                  Read the spec. this is coppied from it ( TIG: 5 - 150 A, 115 VAC ) im just saying in my 18 years of welding i know about how many amps a machine is putting out welding with it and this aint happening on 115 .
                  Yes, but if you're going to tell us "how many amps" it's outputting, esp. in a complaint, you better be prepared to give us some kind of testing procedure.

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                  • #10
                    Hey mac. I am not complaining,and in no means an electrician.I still love the little machine and would buy another if it went down for the count.I appreceiate your time but I will just let this tread die now.
                    2- XMT's 350 cc/cv
                    1- Blue star 185
                    1- BOBCAT 250
                    1- TRAILBLAZER 302
                    1- MILLER DVI
                    2- PASSPORT PLUS
                    1- DYNASTY 200 DX
                    1- DYNASTY 280 DX
                    1- MAXSTAR 150 STL
                    1- HF-251 BOX
                    1- S-74D
                    1- S-75DXA
                    2- 12-RC SUITCASES
                    1- 8-VS SUITCASE
                    2- 30 A SPOOLGUNS

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                    • #11
                      I went with the Maxstar 200, over the 150 specifically because of the max output at 115v. Knowing it might be awhile until I had 220, I needed max 150A output to do what I do.
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                      • #12
                        I suppose that's your call.
                        But without a testing procedure, no one can verify or dispute it anyway.
                        You aren't working at the cold fusion laboratory, are you?
                        No worries, mate.
                        Last edited by MAC702; 05-04-2008, 02:42 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MAC702 View Post
                          Yes, but if you're going to tell us "how many amps" it's outputting, esp. in a complaint, you better be prepared to give us some kind of testing procedure.

                          Right, he has to have a "testing procedure" to convince a bunch of internet experts that his machine isn't putting out what it should.

                          Give me a break. The poor guy had a simple question. People who weld for a living as opposed to posing on the interweb as professional welder dudes, are keenly aware when machine output varies.



                          JTMcC.
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                          • #14
                            And since it's not possible to be both, I guess that defines both of us.

                            Darn right it was a good question. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be backed up with SOME sort of measurement, especially when no one else has mentioned the same problem with identical machines. Perhaps "testing procedure" implied something more complicated than a amprobe?

                            I'd mention that I've owned and extensively used the exact same machine, most often from 120V, but that would be irrelevent, wouldn't it?

                            Have a nice day, missed you around here.
                            Last edited by MAC702; 05-04-2008, 02:38 AM.

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                            • #15
                              I am not real familiar with all the specs and what the internal differences are but seems the model would be irrelevant here wouldn't it, I mean the machine is limited by the incoming circuit usually on 120V machines, wouldn't the 150 and 200 put out the same on 120V?

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