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  • Blondie_486
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    Originally posted by Bigiron View Post
    If that bow tie is still in decent shape and is not a big block, I might be interested in taking it off your hands if you want to part with it. Let me know what you think and a price.
    It's a 350 not sure if it's 4 bold main block but suspect it is with over 120k on it needs rebuilt badly. I won't get around to pulling it out till next year anyway but if you still want it then we can work something out.

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  • Bigiron
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    Let me know if you scrap the bow tie.

    Originally posted by Blondie_486 View Post
    I may have to think about building another mudder. Where I live there 2 places that have mud bogs now. Buckeye Lake has them every Friday night and I forget what the other was. They have classes for the little 1.3L Suzuki Samurais and Sidekicks to full blown boggers running blowers, nitrous or even some alky burners too. I've got this old ragged out Burb. I had been thinking of building a panel truck out of it and tricking it out complete with a hummin Cummins under the hood. I'd of course have to scrap the bowtie engine and put something with a blue oval in the engine house but that can all be done. Would also have to find a set of Danas to beef up to pull it through the mud without breaking easily.
    If that bow tie is still in decent shape and is not a big block, I might be interested in taking it off your hands if you want to part with it. Let me know what you think and a price.

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  • Blondie_486
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    Originally posted by Bigiron View Post
    Buggys now are by defenition rock buggys or mud buggys. Most have some varient on the front suspension, but all are four wheel drive. Either solid front axle or independent front end. Sand rails and dune buggys are still two wheel drive. I am speaking from the four wheel drive point of view. Check out a 4x4 mag, and or go to poisonspyder.com or bluetorchfab.com. They build tube chassis for the rock climbing buggys and offer some accessories. Man, and I thought I had been out of touch. 4 wheeling is bigger than ever. Mud racing is going full bore. We have guys around here doing some bigfoot style trucks just to mud race with. It's insane. I love my 4x4s. You can take the kid out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the kid. LOL!!
    I may have to think about building another mudder. Where I live there 2 places that have mud bogs now. Buckeye Lake has them every Friday night and I forget what the other was. They have classes for the little 1.3L Suzuki Samurais and Sidekicks to full blown boggers running blowers, nitrous or even some alky burners too. I've got this old ragged out Burb. I had been thinking of building a panel truck out of it and tricking it out complete with a hummin Cummins under the hood. I'd of course have to scrap the bowtie engine and put something with a blue oval in the engine house but that can all be done. Would also have to find a set of Danas to beef up to pull it through the mud without breaking easily.

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  • Bigiron
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    buggys now.

    Buggys now are by defenition rock buggys or mud buggys. Most have some varient on the front suspension, but all are four wheel drive. Either solid front axle or independent front end. Sand rails and dune buggys are still two wheel drive. I am speaking from the four wheel drive point of view. Check out a 4x4 mag, and or go to poisonspyder.com or bluetorchfab.com. They build tube chassis for the rock climbing buggys and offer some accessories. Man, and I thought I had been out of touch. 4 wheeling is bigger than ever. Mud racing is going full bore. We have guys around here doing some bigfoot style trucks just to mud race with. It's insane. I love my 4x4s. You can take the kid out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the kid. LOL!!

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  • Blondie_486
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    From what I've seen of the truggys they have a very long travel front suspension from fabricated A arms and usually 2 or 3 shocks one each side. That would mean if they were 4 wheel drive you would have to use a differential in the front without axle tubes but rather flanges to mount CV joints to and use a half shaft for each side of the front end.

    Is this how they're doing it? I've been out of the offroad scene for about 25 years or better now. Back then I was building Volksie powered buggies and at the local strip mines was chewing up the 4x4's through all but the mud holes. Then I made the mistake of driving a 4x4 in the mud pit and was instantly hooked. Went out and bought a rat Bronco and built a really overpowered engine, welded the spiders and went muddin.

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  • Bigiron
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    Muddin.

    Man. I remember the days when I got off work, bought a sixer or a twelve pack, met up with some friends and we just hit the back roads looking for some mud holes to play in. My old toyota hardly ever let me down. Truggies are being built in 4x4 versions. I think they have been for a while.

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  • Blondie_486
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    Originally posted by FusionKing View Post
    word play....a buggy made from 4wd truck....TRU(ck..+..bu)GGY= TRUGGY
    I always thought the truggys were only 2 wheel drive. Perhaps I've been mislead?

    I much prefer the mud boggers myself. If it ain't muddy it ain't worth a pinch of owl poop!

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  • Bigiron
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    I suppose...

    I am to blame for mispelling truggy and buggy. Lol!! Admittedly, I do have a toyota 4x4 already. I am not interested in reworking it for the project in mind. It's still a good little truck. I am actually going to sell it if I can find a buyer. I have too many vehicles laying around anyways. Need to free up some yard space. Not many folks interested in a standard cab model I guess. I am going to post on a couple of 4x4 sites under local area and see if it sells. I want to start from scratch on my project anyways. I don't need the excess parts laying around that I don't use. I Had a guy who was supposed to talk to someone about an old 3/4 ton ford 4x4 for the axles. A '79 model I believe. Any thoughts on that year and size?

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  • FusionKing
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    Originally posted by Flyingpig View Post
    Im pretty lost here. What is a truggie? When I look it up all I find is radio control toys. SBC in an rc? I dont think so.
    word play....a buggy made from 4wd truck....TRU(ck..+..bu)GGY= TRUGGY

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  • Flyingpig
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    Im pretty lost here. What is a truggie? When I look it up all I find is radio control toys. SBC in an rc? I dont think so.

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  • Desertrider33
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    A kingpin high pinion Dana 60 front out of an '86-'91 F350 would be my choice for the front axle. Rear axle, GM 14-bolt 10.5". Transfer case, NP205 with low gear kit. Trans, NP435.

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  • Paul Seaman
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    The best diffs are going to the main stays from ford dodge or chevy,{parts available and upgrade choices** 10 bolt chevy or 12 belt chevy, dana 60 rear and dana 44 fronts, and ford 9" and 8.8" rear difs are all serious with the available upgrades.

    I appologize for my earlier NP 205 mistake, I was confusing the 203 and 205,,,too long since I built a 4x4. My f150 has a 208 one ton transfer case.

    Also, building the connection links for the multi-link differential suspension setups, use 4130 CrMo steel.

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  • Bigiron
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    On the other end of the spectrum.

    I could always take it slow and small. Use 8 inch toyotas front and rear. They hold up pretty good with a little common sense. There are a ton of options out there that are workable. Just throwing the idea out there to see what kind of responses I get mainly.

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  • MMW
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    np205 is all gear driven & virtually bullet proof. You can't go wrong with it although some of the newer transfer cases have a lower low range. 2 1/2 ton rears might be to heavy for a buggy.

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  • Bigiron
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    I got...

    a line on some 2 1/2 ton rockwells that I am considering for the beef, but I don't know for sure if that is the direction I want to go. I am having my wife's step dad check on them for me. He does part time work for the guy who has them. I'll be honest. I never heard of the np208, or had forgotten about it. I'd like to keep the overall length around that of a short bed short wheel base toyota. The width I am still trying to decide on. I want to keep the center of gravity low. Minimum tire size would be 37". Maximum is undetermined at this point. I may end up using a toyota frame if I can get a line on one that is not toast. Just to ease up the build some. I can spec out the roll cage from there.

    Yes, it will be very long and time consuming. I like the idea though. I plan on trying to make a very capable rig that can stand up to a lot, and also be extremely functional. On board air and other necessities. Any more tips and hints would be well appreciated. Thanks.

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